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Reply #36 - 07/12/11 at 10:55:01
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Rubbish much of this.

Kids generally don't need theory? Kids? Doesn't matter about age, look at the rating.

Funny people assuming that 'kids' are duffers.

v French, 4Qd3 v Winawer (as all opponents will take on e4). Bits out quickly, Qh4 Bd3, Bg5 off we go. Forward, turn right. Sound, hacky.

Or, yeah, c4 exchange.

Advance: no, too complex. Too many irrational positions. You may note that Moskalenko and Williams  were writing books for black.
  
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Reply #35 - 07/12/11 at 03:44:45
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 07/09/11 at 00:10:09:
I agree that kids generally don't need theory.

But if their opening choice is supported by theory, it will be easier for them to learn theory later. That's one reason I recommended the French Advance. I still believe it's the most principled response to the French, the most natural, and one of the easiest to learn.


Smylsov_Fan has some support ...

"The best way to learn the genuine French Defence is to play the Advance Variation" (Victor Moskalenko, Flexible French p9)

"If you get to grips with the Advance I think you'll find it alot easier to learn the other openings." (Simon Williams, Killer French Defence DVD)

  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #34 - 07/09/11 at 14:45:41
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ErictheRed wrote on 07/08/11 at 23:04:22:
I still think all of you are nuts for recommending "systems" instead of just logical developing moves to a 1400ish kid, but I guess I'm the only one to think that...

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Kids this young don't need theory,

This two statements are not the same. There are quite a few openings which entirely consist of logical developing moves and which can be taught to 8-years old kids.
When they are 12 or so they are generally ready for slightly more complicated stuff.
I agree though that it's foolish to concentrate on opening theory. The essentials and a showing (not remembering) a few lines should be enough.
Rule of thumb: if you can explain what the purpose of an opening move is and the kind understands it you can show it.
  

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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #33 - 07/09/11 at 00:10:09
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I agree that kids generally don't need theory.

But if their opening choice is supported by theory, it will be easier for them to learn theory later. That's one reason I recommended the French Advance. I still believe it's the most principled response to the French, the most natural, and one of the easiest to learn.
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #32 - 07/08/11 at 23:04:22
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I still think all of you are nuts for recommending "systems" instead of just logical developing moves to a 1400ish kid, but I guess I'm the only one to think that...

I've recently started coaching an 8 year old currently rated 1586.  He doesn't know much, if any, theory, but he knows how to play chess pretty well.  He never gets bad games out of the opening unless he's pretty seriously outclassed (opponent rated 1900 or so).  We go over tactics, simple endgames, calculation exercises, typical strategies in the pawn structures that come up in his games.  We talk about decision making: if we're looking at a game of his, I'll stop at various times and point out that White is offering an exchange of Bishops, is this a good or bad deal for us?  If we take his Knight, what is more important: the doubled pawns or the open file?  Which side would benefit from a Queen exchange?  In this position, you can choose between gaining space (f2-f4) or developing a piece (Ng1-f3).  Which is better, and why?

Kids this young don't need theory, I'm adamant about this, but seeing that I'm already blue in the face I guess I'm done.
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #31 - 07/08/11 at 05:45:13
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I'm seeing a lot of people recommending 3.Nc3, which is strange. The Winawer is not so easy to play, it often requires concrete play and you gotta know your stuff a little bit. I would also advise against the Advance as it also requires some not exactly intuitive means to be properly played. Personally I think the Tarrasch would allow him to get through the opening by fairly intuitive means without the risk of causing major damages in the first ten moves.
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #30 - 07/07/11 at 23:02:39
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Also something like 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5 5. a3 Bxc3+  6. bc Ne7 7. Nf3 Nbc6 8. Bd3 0-0 is hardly out of the question at ~1450 level ...
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #29 - 07/07/11 at 21:43:12
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There are very few things more rewarding to a weak player than winning a Winawer French as White.  The sheer tottery-ness of those positions to beginners teaches them to actually review their position's weaknesses rather than just relying on having a solid or simple position.  What's weak?  What's strong?  Who knows!

I suffered against the French, mostly because I had an awful record in the Winawer Variation.  It's hard to understand, but by that very token, valuable to understand.  Besides, the Poisoned Pawn has some traps for Black that lots of scholastic-type players will fall into, e.g. 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 e5 c5 5 a3 Bxc3 6 bxc3 Ne7 7 Qg4 Qc7 8 Qxg7 Rg8 9 Qxh7 cxd4 10 Ne2 Nc6 11 f4 dxc3 12 Qd3 Bd7 13 Nxc3 a6 14 Rb1 0-0-0??, which is one of the funniest ways to sac a Queen I've ever seen.
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #28 - 06/17/11 at 00:46:58
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urusov wrote on 06/16/11 at 23:39:13:
Actually, I hope the kid is reading. The most important thing he might learn from chess is that all fields of knowledge are contested territories.

Depends on his/her age. Before about 12 years old they are not receptive for this approach. Such a young kid needs a teacher who tells him/her "play this, it is good" plus a short explanation why.
  

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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #27 - 06/16/11 at 23:39:13
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Actually, I hope the kid is reading. The most important thing he might learn from chess is that all fields of knowledge are contested territories.  There are few definitive answers, and certainly none that apply to every case.  That's why we play, after all.  That's one of the greatest lessons you can get from chess at a young age: reading multiple texts full of conflicting opinions, listening to multiple reasonable ideas about the same position or opening -- each informed by equally reasonable assumptions about how to decide -- expands your consciousness.  Reading theoretical discussions like these forces you to examine multiple perspectives and develop a meta-critical consciousness that pushes kids toward more advanced knowledge.  That's why so many chess players become academics or pursue advanced study.  Chess has prepared their brains for it.  And it has taught them, in the end, to listen and then decide for themselves what to believe based on their own practice or analysis.
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #26 - 06/16/11 at 17:04:54
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Keano wrote on 06/16/11 at 15:45:41:
The 1450 kid must be well and truly confused by now.


No kidding.  I mean, he's rated 1450 and he's a kid.  Just have him develop sensibly, he doesn't need a system.  I honestly can't believe all the recommendations on here.  3.Nc3, play a game of chess, who cares about theory at that level?  Have him learn about good opening moves, try to keep Black's light-squared Bishop bottled up, blah blah.

Imagine how confused this 1450 kid is with all the other posts around here.  It's not just a system against the French he's getting!  Have we all forgetten that we play a game called CHESS?  Not multiple games called the French Defence--Winawer Poisoned Pawn Variation, The Clasical Sicilian Defence, Richter/Rauzer Variation, etc.  Just teach him to play CHESS for God's sake.
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #25 - 06/16/11 at 16:48:35
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 06/16/11 at 16:33:51:
My only problem with the Steinitz is that White will also have to learn how to play against the Winawer, and I would rather postpone that sort of lesson.

Actually this is an argument pro the Two Knights because of the transposition 1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 (c5 3.d4 Open Sicilian) 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.d4.
Like Chevy said its value depends on 3...d4. The good news for White is that this is a better version of the Van Geet Opening 1.Nc3 d5 2.e4.
  

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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #24 - 06/16/11 at 16:40:48
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Keano wrote on 06/16/11 at 15:45:41:
The 1450 kid must be well and truly confused by now.


ha! I hope he is not reading. Tongue

There are some throughts I have on a few recommendations.

1) Two Knights: The opposite castling lines seem fun. 3..d4 would make me uneasy though, since it radically changes the character of the game to variations of a forcing nature where Black seems to be doing well. Maybe it's about irrevelant at that level though. I'd probably prefer the 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 move order, even though it means more work (Winawer!).

2) Exchange French: I don't like it honestly, but there seem to be reasonable arguments for it, at least as a temporary solution. There are so many logical good lines for Black to make it undesirable. It feels a lot like an avoidance tactic to me, rather than a long term solution.

3) Advance: I think it is very hard to play properly as White at that level!
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #23 - 06/16/11 at 16:33:51
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Having read the various remarks, I'm definitely in agreement with BPaulsen over all these alternatives to the classical method of development.

A beginner should know that there are three goals to every opening, control the center, develop the pieces democratically (toward the center) and protect the king.

When White plays 1.e4, his goal should be to get in d4. This is the logic behind the Scotch, the Spanish, and so many other openings. When Black does not contest the center, White should occupy it. So, when Black plays 1..e6, 1...c6 or 1...g6, white should respond with 2.d4.

My own recommendation remains the Advance Variation, but the Steinitz Variation is another excellent choice. BPaulsen points out that children are sponges. We shouldn't make opening choices based on how easy it is for the teacher to teach a line, but on how the student may use the openings to scaffold their own understanding of the game.

My only problem with the Steinitz is that White will also have to learn how to play against the Winawer, and I would rather postpone that sort of lesson. Hence, my earlier recommendation of the Advance Variation.
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #22 - 06/16/11 at 16:20:57
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bragesjo wrote on 06/16/11 at 11:30:16:
The Korchnoi Gambit games/video was a good introduction to opening, but I did not give any lines in diversions like the Rubenstein variation. Also, very few games where covered but still enough for a repertour. I belive Korchnoi gambit is sound, it is played regulary by Michael Adams. I even think I have seen Kasparov play it.


This could probably be easily supplemented with either Bologan or Kasimzdhanov's material on 3.Nc3. Also there is the Guimard, which may not have been covered. Tzermiadianos' book on the Tarrasch could be a good reference to fill in some of the gaps in the minor lines. It also covers the Rubenstein as well.
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #21 - 06/16/11 at 15:45:41
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The 1450 kid must be well and truly confused by now.
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #20 - 06/16/11 at 11:30:16
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The Korchnoi Gambit games/video was a good introduction to opening, but I did not give any lines in diversions like the Rubenstein variation. Also, very few games where covered but still enough for a repertour. I belive Korchnoi gambit is sound, it is played regulary by Michael Adams. I even think I have seen Kasparov play it.
  
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Reply #19 - 06/16/11 at 08:07:26
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I noticed that Sam Collins recently made a video for Chessbase on the Korchnoi Gambit. (I haven't seen it myself yet.) That might be the fastest mainline approach to learn.

IMO quick fix systems really have limitations against the French. I noticed 3.Be3 was mentioned, but it really looks like a joke to me. I don't know how I could explain a move like that to a student. If you want to avoid theory, 3.Bd3 would be much better. Here again, it doesn't follow great chess sense either, but there is at least some logic to it. It probably leads to a near equal game with best play, and there are chances for an advantage if Black is not alert. You could probably teach this line within 10 minutes and most opponents at that level would not have a good line prepared. It's not great, but could have some shock value.

It might be useful to compare the Milner-Barry with the Korchnoi Gambit, but I don't like recommending unsound gambits. There's an also a potential autopilot mentality about it that would concern me. I don't see the value of it over the Korchnoi Gambit as theoretical preparation has such a little role at that level. Why not just show stronger moves if there is a similar theme?

The King Indian Attack involves a middlegame structure that is well worth learning. It's a system (potential autopilot issue again) and has its limitations of course. Still I think it has good educational value for middlegame play. I liked the King's Indian as Black when I was that rating, so that was a choice that worked for me.

There's also a strong argument for starting with the principled 3.Nc3. The problem is that I would not feel comfortable spending so much time on the Winawer, MacCutcheon, Classical, and Burn variations. Maybe you'd just have to start with the Burn and old Classical lines and temporarily ignore the rest until it appears OTB. Winging the Winawer Poisoned Pawn just seems like a nightmare to me. The old lines are logical, but some of the trendier lines can be wild and appear irrational. However, this might excite some players and encourage their tactical development.

When it comes down to making a decision, I think a lot of it would depend on the person and the ambition they have for the game!
  
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Reply #18 - 06/15/11 at 20:59:06
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MNb wrote on 06/15/11 at 00:52:39:
urusov wrote on 06/15/11 at 00:40:15:
The opposite side castling positions that arise from the "Russian Roulette" line 1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. d4 c5 6. dxc5 Nc6 7. Bf4 Bxc5 8. Bd3 f6 9. exf6 Nxf6 10. Qe2 O-O 11. O-O-O are a lot of fun to play.  Unfortunately, there is not one very good source on this line.

Are you not impressed by Moskalenko's chapter 7 of The Flexible French or don't you know it? He annotates 6 high class games.

Sorry for being unclear.  I meant that there is not a single source that covers the entire line very well.  There are multiple sources that touch on pieces.  Moskalenko is excellent, and his chapter is why I call it the "Russian Roulette" as he does.  Much of his analysis also appeared in NIC Yearbook.  But he ONLY covers this opposite side castling line and nothing else.  Meanwhile, Chris Baker's Startling Repertoire book does a good job in places, but it does not discuss the line that Moskalenko does.  So you have to track down the multiple sources and piece things together for yourself.
  
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Reply #17 - 06/15/11 at 09:50:00
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It depends...

If the kid has not read Nimzowich's My sistem yet (i asume that he didn't) i would teach him/her something aiming for an open, lively game.The relatively simple exchange variation could do.

After studing Nimzowich' ideas i would teach him the advance. Not for a definitive repertoire but as a step more in his chess developement.
Anyway at low levels openings are not the most important. Emphasis must be put on tactics, endings and midle game themes...New openings should be introduced as a road to new types of positions.
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urusov wrote on 06/15/11 at 00:40:15:
The opposite side castling positions that arise from the "Russian Roulette" line 1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. d4 c5 6. dxc5 Nc6 7. Bf4 Bxc5 8. Bd3 f6 9. exf6 Nxf6 10. Qe2 O-O 11. O-O-O are a lot of fun to play.  Unfortunately, there is not one very good source on this line.

Are you not impressed by Moskalenko's chapter 7 of The Flexible French or don't you know it? He annotates 6 high class games.
  

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Reply #15 - 06/15/11 at 00:40:15
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I think there is a lot to learn from the isolated pawn positions arising from the Exchange French with c4 (sometimes called the Monte Carlo variation).  I have written about it here:
http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/games/java/2009/fr-ex-c4.htm
Especially for developing players, these isolani positions are good to know because they can arise in a wide range of openings, as White or Black, and help aid moving freely between d-pawn and e-pawn openings.

I took up the Two Knights French myself as a youngster and still play that quite a bit.  It produces a wide range of positions and has lots of traps.  The opposite side castling positions that arise from the "Russian Roulette" line 1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. d4 c5 6. dxc5 Nc6 7. Bf4 Bxc5 8. Bd3 f6 9. exf6 Nxf6 10. Qe2 O-O 11. O-O-O are a lot of fun to play.  Unfortunately, there is not one very good source on this line.  I should probably write something up... Smiley

I think both of these lines are perfectly legitimate (more legit than many of the silly gambit lines other 1400s fall into playing) and definitely have something to teach developing players. 
  
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Reply #14 - 06/14/11 at 20:24:53
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Any scholastic player I coach is taking up 3. Nc3. Part of learning chess is learning different positions, which means I don't suscribe to the "must have open positions all the time" mantra. They can get open positions when they get other defenses (Sicilian, 1. e4 e5, etc.) - not the French. Why? Because lines like the 4. c4 Exchange surrender the initiative (black has absolutely no issue finding good moves that maintain the balance/strive for more, and why should I put my student behind the 8-ball when kids, being the sponges they are, can learn the perfectly natural/explainable main lines).

The French is as good a time as any to teach a student about pawn chains, bad bishops, space advantages, etc., and they can at least put pressure on black by playing natural moves.

3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5. The Steinitz is not hard to play the white side of at all. There's not a better primer to playing with space/against the bad bishop/undermining pawn chains than this one.

3. Nc3 Bb4 has a bunch of choices being reasonable if he's preoccupied with learning other things and has no time to learn the full main lines yet (4. exd5, 4. a3 both have bite and lead to playable positions for white where black is perhaps exercising more caution).

3. Nc3 dxe4 is an open position, and the kid will have similar experiences from the Open Games and Sicilian.
  

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Reply #13 - 06/14/11 at 20:00:23
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How about a compromise with 3 Nc3 and then if black goes for Winawer or MacCutcheon you play a delayed exchange?  If instead Black goes with a ...dxe4 line or something like 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 Bg5 Be7 then those involve pretty straightforward piece play for a student.
  
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Reply #12 - 06/14/11 at 19:42:49
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The c4 exchange French is a popular choice among scholastic students who have coaches, but Black has very little to fear from such a choice. I can't think of any middle school or high school state champions in my area who won by playing c4 exchange lines as White.

Of course, I don't know what every state champion has played, but I really doubt that c4 exchange lines are the best way to go despite its popularity.

To me, the great advantage of the Exchange French isn't that it helps the students, but it makes the task of teaching the kids easier without actually giving them the best tools.
  
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Reply #11 - 06/14/11 at 19:36:13
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My first thougt was Korchnoi gambit in Tarrash, but black is not forced to enter it. The gambit teaches value of initiativ, leed in development and gives attacking chanses. The gambit gives long term compensation, sometimes even lasting into an endgame.
  
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Reply #10 - 06/14/11 at 15:50:37
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Definitely the 4.c4 Exchange. In my experience most French players adore facing 3.e5, and 3.Nc3 is a bit complex. Obviously this could also be seen as a reason to teach the kid 3.Nc3.

Personally I struggled against the French until I started playing the Tarrasch. I personally think it's a bit too positionally complex for a junior below 2000, but maybe a repertoire around the Korchnoi Gambit deserves consideration.
  

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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #9 - 06/14/11 at 15:34:11
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MNb wrote on 06/14/11 at 00:55:20:
Stigma wrote on 06/13/11 at 17:55:32:
The most common way for Black to "avoid" the Milner-Barry on beginner level is 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.Bd3 cxd4 7.cxd4 Nxd4. But I don't think White should be too unhappy with that deviation.

That happened once indeed when I played the Milner Barry. All others deviated with 5...Nge7 or 6...Bd7 etcetera. I have never got the chance to play the Milner Barry itself. So after more than a year I returned to 3.Nc3 and decided to get on friendly terms with 4.e5 against the Winawer.

Yeah, I'd say if you're insisting on a gambit against the French, go with the Alapin (1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Be3). The books I've seen claim that after 3. ... dxe4 4. Nd2 is the way to go before 5. f3, but I prefer the 4. f3 line.

But like the similar thread about what to play against the Sicilian, I think rapidly improving kids are probably better served sticking to main lines that they'll be able to play for life, even at master and GM level.
  

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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
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Stigma wrote on 06/13/11 at 17:55:32:
The most common way for Black to "avoid" the Milner-Barry on beginner level is 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.Bd3 cxd4 7.cxd4 Nxd4. But I don't think White should be too unhappy with that deviation.

That happened once indeed when I played the Milner Barry. All others deviated with 5...Nge7 or 6...Bd7 etcetera. I have never got the chance to play the Milner Barry itself. So after more than a year I returned to 3.Nc3 and decided to get on friendly terms with 4.e5 against the Winawer.
  

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I had all my students play the Exchange with 4.c4.  It's dynamic, and it has the virtue that it forces the position to become open.
  

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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
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MNb wrote on 06/13/11 at 12:16:47:
charlesgalofre wrote on 06/13/11 at 00:07:24:
teaching the kid i would agree with you and teach the milner. its simply more colorful for him and going over miniatures will be rewarding for him.

Except nobody on beginner's level will allow the Milner Barry Gambit, as I know from experience. So the kid will mainly have to play closed games with slow manoeuvring.
The Two Knights and the Exchange 4.c4 are better suggestions.


The most common way for Black to "avoid" the Milner-Barry on beginner level is 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.Bd3 cxd4 7.cxd4 Nxd4. But I don't think White should be too unhappy with that deviation.

Seriously though, I've seen players in the 700-1300 range reach the Milner Barry almost every time 1.e4 e6 is played, and generally getting either the basic trap above or a strong attack. It fits in very nicely with a general gambit/attacking repertoire for White.
  

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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
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I would recommend the Advance Variation because it teaches your student the basics of how to play with and against pawn chains while still being good enough for top GMs.

After they've played the Advance for a year or two, moving on to the Steinitz/Winawer Variations is a breeze.
  
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charlesgalofre wrote on 06/13/11 at 00:07:24:
teaching the kid i would agree with you and teach the milner. its simply more colorful for him and going over miniatures will be rewarding for him.

Except nobody on beginner's level will allow the Milner Barry Gambit, as I know from experience. So the kid will mainly have to play closed games with slow manoeuvring.
The Two Knights and the Exchange 4.c4 are better suggestions.
  

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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #3 - 06/13/11 at 01:13:35
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I doubt he needs to worry about theory, just have him develop simply and sensibly with 3.Nc3.  Teach him that Black's LSB is bad and that he should not play exd5 too early, allowing Black to develop that piece.  Stuff like 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.e5 is very instructive to a kid; White is creating an e5 pawn chain and wants to trade his DSB, leaving himself with a good Bishop and Black with a bad one (at least temporarily). 

Just have him play chess, the most natural/best moves on the board, and discuss the ideas behind them.  He won't need any real theory at his level, but you can start giving him the foundation for it now.
  
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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
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the two knights is a very nice system, it offers a lot of traps and its easy to play.

teaching the kid i would agree with you and teach the milner. its simply more colorful for him and going over miniatures will be rewarding for him.
  

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Re: A system against french for a 1450 elo kid
Reply #1 - 06/12/11 at 20:23:05
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One thing that is sometimes suggested when this question (with some variation in the kid's age and rating) comes up is the Exchange with 4. c4, in order to obtain an open(-ish) position.  One can find some rather thematic games played by people such as GMs Wolff and Ashley and IM Waitzkin.
  
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C00-C19: A system against french for 1450 elo kid
06/12/11 at 19:54:15
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Hi ,
This is THORK , a full member of chesspublishing . I´m training a kid 1450 elo rating level and I wonder what is the best option for him to face the French Defense . ¿ Milner - Barry Attack ? ¿ 1.e4 - e6 2 . d4 - d5 3. c4 ( as a surprise weapon ) ? ¿ 1.e4 - e6 2 . Nf3 - d5 3 . Nc3 system ?
Hope to hear soon from you !
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