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Re: Killer Dragon DVD
Reply #25 - 01/02/12 at 20:32:21
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Having look a bit further at some random places on the disc, he does not go particullary deep into the mainlines. Also some key lines in the Soltis are unmentioned, particullary Bh6!.  The variations are more verbal and there is only video files s on the disc and no pgn or other things to use engine to compare automatically. The best part of first disc must be the chinese, he seems to have found lines to go around several black difficulties and I may actually take up chinese again! However the disc is more than 6 hours long so I have not watched it yet, only parts of it.
  
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Reply #24 - 01/02/12 at 08:17:40
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I has only made a very quick look late yesterday. I enterred the disc into my computer and Media player started, it appears that the disc is therefore pure video with a advanced chapter meny systems but I has not hade time to confirm that. During the quick look I jumped a few chapters and made a quick check on chinese dragon and he seems to have some new ideas there in a critical line, but I has not had time to check other critical options there yet or computer double check. I can get a more detailed overview later this week, busy at work in an other town. I will check other critical lines to.
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Reply #23 - 01/02/12 at 05:54:24
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Any reviews yet?
Bragesjo surely? A man who breathes dragon fire.
Thoughts as to the repertoire offerings versus not-Yugoslav lines?
How theoretically heavy are the Yugoslav lines? Meaty stuff one hopes.
  
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Re: Killer Dragon DVD
Reply #22 - 12/13/11 at 20:40:20
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For my part, I prefere to play Solits defence combined with Topalov system but that me playing solid and fasing out the Dragon and I will probebly switch opening next seasons after playing to many games unless something develops in the Dragon in both some forced draw Soltis lines (Bh6) and in some 9 0-0-0 lines.

However, black has an other option that is intersting in the Ne5 12 Kb1 variation and that is Nc4 13 Bxc4 Rxc4 14 g4 b5 15 b3 b4!? line called Burnett variation leeding to pretty unclear sitruations.

About Chinese, I had a good score with it, including crushing a FM in a team match but there was some line I did not like.
  
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Reply #21 - 12/13/11 at 14:36:39
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I don't completely trust 10..Na5 as a main weapon, but it does have its points (knight is not a target on e5, e5 is not blocked, Nxb3 is an additional option, etc.). Line (b) with 12.Kb1 is why I posed the question, as it is outside the normal Soltis. The point is that 10.Bb3 can be treated as both an anti-Chinese and anti-Soltis.

XChess1971 wrote on 12/13/11 at 11:20:27:
ChevyBanginStyle wrote on 12/11/11 at 18:41:40:
The DVD recommends the Chinese and the Soltis, but I can't find mention of 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.Bb3. I suppose 10..Na5 would be the main attempt to reach the Chinese, but 11.h4 (recommended by de la Villa) looks annoying. I've often seen that 10.Bb3 Nxd4 has a decent reputation, but this move order seems to be a problem for staying within this repertoire. Or am I missing something? I'm studying the Yugoslav for Black again and this move order is a slight headache.


It is usual to play after 10.Bb3...
a)10...Rc8 11.h4 h5
b) 10...Rc8 11.0-0-0 Ne5
c) 10...Rc8 11.0-0-0 Nxd4
d) 10...Nxd4
e) 10...Na5 is a move less trusted because it releases the pressure on d4 very early. White can start an attack via g4 and h4, or just h4 itself without castling long. 

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Re: Killer Dragon DVD
Reply #20 - 12/13/11 at 11:20:27
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ChevyBanginStyle wrote on 12/11/11 at 18:41:40:
The DVD recommends the Chinese and the Soltis, but I can't find mention of 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.Bb3. I suppose 10..Na5 would be the main attempt to reach the Chinese, but 11.h4 (recommended by de la Villa) looks annoying. I've often seen that 10.Bb3 Nxd4 has a decent reputation, but this move order seems to be a problem for staying within this repertoire. Or am I missing something? I'm studying the Yugoslav for Black again and this move order is a slight headache.


It is usual to play after 10.Bb3...
a)10...Rc8 11.h4 h5
b) 10...Rc8 11.0-0-0 Ne5
c) 10...Rc8 11.0-0-0 Nxd4
d) 10...Nxd4
e) 10...Na5 is a move less trusted because it releases the pressure on d4 very early. White can start an attack via g4 and h4, or just h4 itself without castling long.
  
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Reply #19 - 12/11/11 at 22:34:42
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Looking around, I see a few interesting ideas in the chesspub database with Na5 in the Soltis (Friedel-Jones) and Qc7 lines (Jakovenko-Jainu) that might make 10.Bb3 Na5 a reasonable backup weapon. It looks like 10..Nxd4 is the way to go, but there are a few interesting questions posed by this move order.
  
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Reply #18 - 12/11/11 at 19:43:42
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Yes, the value of 10.Bb3 does seems to depend on the assessment of 10..Nxd4, as I don't see a better independent option. If that is a problem, I need to look into the Topalov or go back to the 12.Kb1 lines (which I'm trying to avoid).

It appears one must learn three major systems against 9.Bc4 to play the most theoretically sound continuations! (Well OK, maybe two if you always aim for the Topalov system.)
  
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Re: Killer Dragon DVD
Reply #17 - 12/11/11 at 19:22:06
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ChevyBanginStyle wrote on 12/11/11 at 18:41:40:
this move order seems to be a problem for staying within this repertoire.

Yes as Black will neither enter the Chinese nor the Soltis.
No as 10...Nxd4 11.Bxd4 b5 is an independent variation that cannot be reached via 10.h4 or 10.O-O-O.
  

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Reply #16 - 12/11/11 at 18:41:40
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The DVD recommends the Chinese and the Soltis, but I can't find mention of 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.Bb3. I suppose 10..Na5 would be the main attempt to reach the Chinese, but 11.h4 (recommended by de la Villa) looks annoying. I've often seen that 10.Bb3 Nxd4 has a decent reputation, but this move order seems to be a problem for staying within this repertoire. Or am I missing something? I'm studying the Yugoslav for Black again and this move order is a slight headache.
  
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Re: Killer Dragon DVD
Reply #15 - 11/07/11 at 08:00:23
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I can also post the Shirov-Topalov games here, it might be of interest.

  
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Re: Killer Dragon DVD
Reply #14 - 11/03/11 at 16:49:10
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I meant 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 g6 6 Be3 a6 (Bg7 = no longer accelearated Dragadorf since accelerated idea is to avoid Bg7 untill later. It can however became a regular dragadorf or a standard dragon) 7 Be2  (I checked hes book too, only given move is f3) with idea Qd2 and 0-0-0 without playing f3. No refutation but still a bit tricky to meet unprepared. Ng4 is of course possible later but in these types of position black does not want to play a6.

However in standard dragon 5 .. g6 6 Be3 Bg7 7 Be2 line is completly different but still a bit tricky with the Qd2 0-0-0 plan. I asses that line as unclear if black plays Ng4 after Qd2.
  
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Reply #13 - 11/03/11 at 16:31:37
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I suppose you mean 5...g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.Qd2 and only after a6 8.Be2.
But isn't 7...Ng4 stronger now than it was on move 6 ?

I've always found it a pity that the Yugoslav with Be2 isn't playable against the Accelerated Dragon: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.Nc3 Bg7 6.Be3 Nf6 7.Be2 O-O 8.Qd2 d5!
  

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Reply #12 - 11/03/11 at 15:13:25
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Both discs looks interesting at first sight. I will probebly buy both.

In disc 2 he also seems to prefere to play accelerated Dragadorf instead of standard dragadorf.
However, he does not seem to cover the line line where white plays Be2 yugoslav like instead of f3 in accelereted dragadorf, he only covers it in standard dragon when then position does not transpose!
EDIT the line in the Shirov - Topalov sample game with Be3 Be2 yugoslav like is very good for white if he had play Kb1 instead of h4  /EDIT
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Reply #11 - 11/03/11 at 14:01:03
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Contents up:
http://www.gingergm.com/shop/dvds/killer-dragon-with-gm-simon-williams/

For those waiting, 'Xmas elf' put up a games collection on chessgames. Looks a keen fella this elf, has some serious collections there.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1019290

"Play the dragadorf, it's good for yer 'elf"
  
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Reply #10 - 10/06/11 at 13:02:19
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Trailers are up:

http://www.gingergm.com/2011/10/06/the-killer-dragon-part-1-2-trailers/

Must say, GM Williams is a very capable presenter.
None of that chessbase DVD looking-at-chessbase-on-telly-throughout nonsense. Presenting to the audience.
Looks very much in command of the material, presents lucidly and confidently to the viewer.
Have ordered....
  
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Reply #9 - 10/05/11 at 20:19:40
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The contents of DVD 1 are still not published at the Ginger GM online shop, although both DVD's have been available for pre-order for some weeks. Strange! Looks like there will be some delay...

Cactus wrote on 09/22/11 at 09:05:58:
Actual release date now for Killer Dragon 1 & 2 is confirmed as 13th October 2011. Replicators are mega busy.

  
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Reply #8 - 09/22/11 at 09:05:58
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Actual release date now for Killer Dragon 1 & 2 is confirmed as 13th October 2011. Replicators are mega busy.
  
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Reply #7 - 09/21/11 at 07:51:49
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Not too upset about the promised cb file. Nice to offer as an extra certainly, will be happy when arrives.

Look forward to the Dragon DVD. Has been a while since there has been some hardcore material produced about the Dragon. 
  
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Reply #6 - 09/21/11 at 05:39:44
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The e-books will definitely be out soon and at gingergm we can only apologise for the delay. Certainly in the next month everyone will receive them. They have proven to be a bit bigger than originally planned so everyone will get good value and enjoyment from them.

With regards to the upcoming release this is the blurb on the back cover the DVD cover

"DRAGON BLURB PART 1
The Dragon variation is considered to be one of the sharpest openings in chess. Made popular due to its aggressive nature, it is little wonder that the Dragon has attracted the likes of world number one Magnus Carlsen as one of its enthusiasts.

The first DVD in this two part series focuses mainly on the sharpest lines of the Dragon Variation, namely, the Yugoslav Attack. However, alternative lines are also given for those players wishing to shy away from the reams of theory associated with this opening.

Follow Ginger GM Supremo, Grandmaster Simon Williams, as he systematically explains the ideas behind this electrifying opening.

Warning: DVD not suitable for the fainthearted!"

The last comment is quite apt as in our opinion the DVD is best for players with some good Dragon knowledge already as some of the variations go very deep and would be a bit too complicated for someone who knows nothing of the opening.

The second DVD focuses mainly on the Dragodorf.

At the moment Simon is currently going over both DVDs error checking but being such a long running time takes a bit of time. I think he will finish error checking by tomorrow and if they are ok (they should be as this is the second error check run) then off to the replicators they go. This normally takes ten days or so.
  
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Reply #5 - 09/20/11 at 17:33:08
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Benoni wrote on 09/20/11 at 11:38:16:
Williams does tend to bite off more than he can chew.  He promised an e-book to accompany his Dutch DVD & has been advertising its forthcoming release on his websites for over a year now - I'm still waiting.  As well produced as the DVD was I feel a bit cheated & am unlikely to purchase other products.


Indeed, his word does seem to carry very little weight at times. He often tends to over promise and under deliver, which is the complete opposite of what a successful business model is supposed to be. 

Don't give up hope, the fabled e-book may yet turn up one day.
  

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Reply #4 - 09/20/11 at 11:38:16
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Williams does tend to bite off more than he can chew.  He promised an e-book to accompany his Dutch DVD & has been advertising its forthcoming release on his websites for over a year now - I'm still waiting.  As well produced as the DVD was I feel a bit cheated & am unlikely to purchase other products.
  
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Reply #3 - 09/19/11 at 20:37:05
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I visited the gingergm site out of curiosity.

On the homepage there is a big add about visiting their chess shop to 'place pre-orders now', but when you click on their shop you will find there is no way to do this.

Williams has been punting both the Dragon and the c3 Sicilian on the ICC of late, so its fair to assume he will author both DVD's. Although being the Mad Hacker he is, it will be interesting to see how he interprets the 2.c3 Sicilian for White.

Should make for interesting viewing once released we hope.

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Reply #2 - 09/16/11 at 13:42:15
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Who is the author? Maybe Gawain Jones, who did the Killer Grand Prix video? Then we should get a regular dragon, not a hybrid Dragon/Najdorf.

The 2c3 dvd looks interesting as well.

Will have to check back at their site in a week or 2 once the details are posted.
  
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Reply #1 - 09/16/11 at 09:56:44
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Interesting. I am curiois if it will be about mainline Dragon or Dragadorf like hes book?
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Killer Dragon DVD
09/15/11 at 19:28:36
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Simon Williams has announced a forthcoming dvd on his website.

http://www.gingergm.com/
  
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