John wrote on 10/19/11 at 23:19:32:
I just wanted to make an update...
Diduk figured out a way to refute the Hogwash! Finally
I will analyze these lines carefully before posting them here so It doesn't turn out to be a mistake but if all is well and indeed it is a sound refutation I'll post it here sometime soon.
If not, I'll address the other ideas suggested by several people.
Thanks.
I am very curious to see the refutation of 6...f5. I don't think it was possible. I believe that white's task compared to other variations in the winawer is considerably simplified but proving a clear advantage would be quite an achievement.
I thought the best (or at least a good) plan was to gain space on the king side with h4-h5, check if Nf4 is possible, probably play a4, decide whether it makes sense to protect the queen side with Rh3 (also preparing Rg3) or Rh4 (goes well together with dc5), while keeping the position of the queen and the black-squared bishop still open for a bit. The key point here is reacting flexibly to Blacks set-up. This should be pretty safe since an early f5 considerably limits Black counterplay. (Of course John would deny that such statements without sufficient variations are meaningful but I think we can agree to disagree here).
One last idea. 6...f5 7. Qd3 with the idea Qg3/Ne2-f4 (of course 7.. Qc7 transposes after 8.Qg3)
Some additional comments/clarifications.
Diduk wrote on 10/05/11 at 19:49:48:
Now let me comment on 7.h4 with next 9.h5 move (line: 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 f5 7. h4 Qa5 8. Bd2 Qc7 9. h5). At first glance it looks a bit odd while u have ur pieces undeveloped, but the main idea of this move is simple - not to allow early g7-g5. what is more, h5 doesn’t lose tempo as it does qh5 with next g6 qd1.
That was one of the main points together with the idea that a pawn on h5 supports a Knight on f4 looking at e6 and possibly g6 (especially after Black plays h6). Essentially white wants to stop all counterplay on the king side.
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I have also to admit that white's advantage on king side can be reached by playing g4 at some suitable moment. Early g4 isn’t any panacea for white at all. I consider g4 is too aggressive and overoptimistic right in the opening.Black can equalize easily.
I never said (or at least I did not intend to) that white should play g4 quickly nor do I think anybody else did. If Black ignores the king side or plays dubious moves then g4 can quickly become very strong though. The whole point is that this gives White an additional weapon against blacks position.
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Please,do not underestimate the role of black-squared bishop. I believe the best plan fo the bishop would be c1-a3-d6 supported by queen on a3. Bishop on d6 can be a decisive weapon not only in the endgame but also in the middlegame. I guess black shouldn't castle in this defense and that's the main point. While white prepares attack king can simply desert to another side of the board so that all white's efforts have gone.
After Black plays c4, I would almost always agree, in other situations it is not so clear especially after the moves h5-h6 g7-g6 have been played. Then Bg5-f6,Ng5 may be strong as well.
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C18: French Winawer, 5. a3, 6... f5 Analysis (Read 85313 times)
