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Reply #30 - 03/27/21 at 13:43:28
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All have had their say. I'm locking the thread.

@gambit - you are on a short leash from here on in.

@mnb - the same is true for you.
  
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Reply #29 - 03/27/21 at 11:06:00
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Agree with MNb.
Has been destructive rather than constructive here for many years.
Needs a firm mod hand.
  
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Re: 1.d4 - Beat the Guerrillas?
Reply #28 - 03/27/21 at 07:13:42
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Gambit wrote on 03/27/21 at 00:39:57:
Let me respond here with refutations to your posts.

(1) There was no "slander" involved. I stated facts such as they are. When I challenged Broznik and he refused to play, that became an established fact. Thus, to say that he turned tail is accurate.

So you don't (want to?) understand the difference between a fact and a judgment either.
After this blooper my experience on internet has taught me that things only can go downhill. So I haven't read any further.

Fact: you always turn down corr. chess challenges.
Judgment according to your "logic": you invariably turn your tail.
My judgment: you're a hypocrite.
Fact: When I confront you with my judgments you invariably start a rant.
My judgment: my previous judgment is confirmed.
Fact: you never post your nonsense in the Dragon section.
Fact: I'm the moderator there.
Hypothesis: you understand that your nonsense in unacceptable in my eyes.
My juddgment: you abuse the tolerance of moderators like Proustiskeen or worse, the absence of moderators.

My advise to my colleague: delete everything without chess content, ie everything from Gambit's first comment on IM Bronznik from 12/11/20. Like I wrote above I disagree with Jupp - the only remedy for trolling is systematically remove comments with troll content, whether intentionally or not.
In this thread there are already more comments on Gambit's attitude than on IM Bronznik's book and that's a bad thing afaIc.
  

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Reply #27 - 03/27/21 at 02:49:51
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1. It's better not to use terms like 'chicken' and 'turn tail', I suggest. You are suggesting cowardice, which is bizarre. It's a board game, not MMA. That's unkind of you, and frankly, it is sheer muppetry on your part. Please don't say bad things about people. 

You are a fairly weak player and a rude troll, challenging good players and thorough authors. It would be wasting their time. Of course they do not play some keyboard rando they have never met. 

2. This is international, not the US. This is an international forum. Recognise that. 

3. Nope. 
I checked the rating list. I admittedly lost loads when I returned to active play (ouch), now on the way back up. Still more than 150 rating points higher though. Not sure it counts for much at all with such a low rating nowadays, but am FM.

4. Sure, good luck to you. Play your bad lines and enjoy. You seem upset that your ideas are shown to be bad and often losing. Just chess moves that do not work - people are not insulting your grandmother, or your horse, or spilling your pint, and it's not personal. Just moves, just bad moves, that's all. Continue enjoy playing your moves online, go for it.  Get your rocks off. Hobbies are to be enjoyed, and that's great that you do so, genuinely. I know people who like fishing, and catch no fish. Great. 
But don't expect a theory forum to not discuss and note when ideas are good, okay or bad. 

5. Could not see a point you were making there.

Lev - after over a decade behaving in the same rude and childish way, you cannot still be a teenager. Be a responsible, thoughtful adult.

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It's a good book by the way, by an author who is consistently good. (Non-disclaimer - never met him). I have it, and it's certainly useful for equipping against some less common lines.
  
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Re: 1.d4 - Beat the Guerrillas?
Reply #26 - 03/27/21 at 00:39:57
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Let me respond here with refutations to your posts.

(1) There was no "slander" involved. I stated facts such as they are. When I challenged Broznik and he refused to play, that became an established fact. Thus, to say that he turned tail is accurate.  I do not care if he is an unrated or Grandmaster, for that is not the point. Rather, the point is that he refused to defend over-the-board on Internet what he wrote.

(2) As a journalist writing for a newspaper, I am very familiar with the First Amendment. Slander is something that is not true. A fact is something that is true. You should know that.

(3) Bibs, I play chess better than you do. Have you invented any chess lines? I have not seen any, sir. If you look in the databases, my openings are played the world over. As far as trolling, I disagree. You do not like my opinions because, in my view, they ran counter to so-called established wisdom.  See #4 for next point.

(4) Chess theory is based on the premise that inventors of lines and analyses are prepared to back it up with games. Polugaevsky played his variation in the Sicilian Defense; Benko played the Benko Gambit; Korchnoi played 1 d4 f5 2 h3; Diemer played the BDG... Point is, all these players were willing to defend challenges to their analyses and games.

Today I see too many authors and players that will write something, proclaim a "refutation", and then refuse to defend what they wrote in a tournament game. I really do not care if you are an unrated or World Champion. If you have written and put forward a variation, then have the courage to defend it against all comers, from novice to Grandmaster.  Writing a book is one thing, but defending what you wrote is quite another.

I have always defended what I wrote and played over the board. Why? Because I stick up for my principles and my openings. 

(5) After Kasparov lost to Depp Blue in 1997, it became clear that humans should play humans and computers should play computers. Point is, a machine has a database programmed and can think faster, while a human cannot.  Likewise, the prevalence of chess engines has taken a lot of fun out of correspondence chess. This is because some 1500 can use a chess engine to win games, with people being none the wiser.

I have seen chess sites where cheaters have been banned by the thousands. Why do you think I am distrustful of correspondence chess to a certain extent? Because there is the possibility that you are not playing against a human but against his computer!!

So, there you have my responses. If you want to play me in an OTB  game, say G/30 on Internet Chess Club or some other site, let me know.

Thank you for your attention.
  
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Reply #25 - 03/27/21 at 00:13:51
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Good stuff. Thanks and well done new mod.

Yes, agree with MnB and disagree with Jupp. Ignoring this troll has never worked. Sometimes, alas, a degree of intervention is required. While retaining an overall ‘light touch’.
  
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Re: 1.d4 - Beat the Guerrillas?
Reply #24 - 03/26/21 at 18:35:41
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proustiskeen wrote on 03/26/21 at 14:20:48:
Hi - new mod here.

Gambit has had a long leash on this board for years. Most people have just ignored his worst impulses. But not here.

I'm inclined to let things stand, given the history of the board, but will keep an eye on this and delete if it gets worse / continues.


Hi new mod! Thank you for agreeing to do this task. No matter what you do, somebody will object. I vote for a light touch. Don't work too hard. Smiley
  
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Re: 1.d4 - Beat the Guerrillas?
Reply #23 - 03/26/21 at 17:26:18
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Jupp53 wrote on 03/26/21 at 11:43:38:
Anyone recognizing a troll should not reply.

It has been shown empirically since long that this doesn't help by any means.
  

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Reply #22 - 03/26/21 at 14:20:48
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Hi - new mod here.

Gambit has had a long leash on this board for years. Most people have just ignored his worst impulses. But not here.

I'm inclined to let things stand, given the history of the board, but will keep an eye on this and delete if it gets worse / continues.
  
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Re: 1.d4 - Beat the Guerrillas?
Reply #21 - 03/26/21 at 11:43:38
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Anyone recognizing a troll should not reply.

And yes - the moderators should delete some text here for the sake of a rational discussion. My post should be deleted then too.
  

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Reply #20 - 03/26/21 at 03:31:04
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@Gambit

Don’t you bore yourself with the same old routine? Looking in the mirror, sighing and yawning? It’s always been tedious. 

I refer the poster to my earlier answer. 

Bronznik is a decent player and a very good author, and is to be respected. 

You, however, are a weak player and a troll, and are not to be respected. Jog on. 

Tony K and Mods - please manage Lev's / Gambit’s slandering of published authors. It’s ugly. We can do better here. 
  
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Re: 1.d4 - Beat the Guerrillas?
Reply #19 - 03/25/21 at 11:12:48
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Gambit wrote on 03/24/21 at 22:59:12:
MNb,

I do not bother  with correspondence much

That's your full right. However then you should not expect anyone bothering with your challenges either. They not only are pointless, as Hallbastark explained, they mean less than nothing.


Gambit wrote on 03/24/21 at 22:59:12:
I stand by what I said, that being that Broznik turned tail and ran when offered the opportunity to play me.

Like I wrote, this means leas than nothing. But I've given up any hope that you'll ever understand this. Apparently you do understand that you shouldn't try this nonsense on the Dragon section though.
  

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Reply #18 - 03/25/21 at 10:10:48
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If I was an author I would also decline all challenges via Internet categorically:)

The funny thing is, I often see those kind of challenges on c****.com when IMs give their opinion and some 1600 player disagrees and challenges the IM to a match about who is right. Besides the point that the IM has certainly other commitments and it would be a giant waste of time, there are two scenarios that can occur:
1.) The IM kicks his ass because he is the stronger player
2.) The other player cheats so he wins the discussion - (maybe even the more likely scenario)

So yeah, no point in accepting those challenges.
  
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Re: 1.d4 - Beat the Guerrillas?
Reply #17 - 03/24/21 at 22:59:12
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MNb,

I do not bother  with correspondence much because those days there are too many chess engines. That would not be fair, as I would be playing a machine, not you. Blitz is fine, as I would be playing a human. I do believe I told you that.

I stand by what I said, that being that Broznik turned tail and ran when offered the opportunity to play me. It reminds me of the late Eric Schiller. He at least had the decency to admit that his 7...Nc6 in the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit, Euwe Defense ran into the Zilbermints Gambit, 8 00! Nxd4 9 Kh1!  In fact, Schiller used the gambit as an illustration of quick development.

Broznik is not Schiller, despite them both having German roots.  So until Broznik learns to stand up for what he writes, and play an Internet OTB game with me, I will say that he "turned tail and ran."
  
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Re: 1.d4 - Beat the Guerrillas?
Reply #16 - 12/12/20 at 09:03:15
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Gambit wrote on 12/11/20 at 23:31:39:
Otherwise that is called turning tail and running away from a challenge.

Exactly what you did when I challenged you to play a double internet match - two corr. games, two blitz games. Your yellow lion tail disappeared faster from sight than lightning.
Bronznik's book is one of the best chess books I ever bought. I wished someone wrote a similar book on 1.e4.
  

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