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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #57 - 11/26/13 at 02:54:24
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 03/20/13 at 20:12:41:
Schaakhamster wrote on 03/20/13 at 13:58:30:
Did you find a reasonable way to fend off the Nxe5 piece sack after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Bc5 5. Nxe5 Nxe5 6. d4 ? I would love to play the classical (Berlin) but that line always put me off...

Yes, this is tricky, but I've recommended a line that I'm happy to play as Black, and indeed I even played this last Sunday!

Can you post the game? I can't find it.
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #56 - 03/21/13 at 14:59:58
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 03/21/13 at 13:41:33:
Schaakhamster wrote on 03/21/13 at 07:33:39:
interesting...

But don't forget this a DW book! Shocked


oh no problem... got a few of those so I know the concept.

But I promised myself no more openingbooks until I got a lot of non-openingwork out of the way  Grin
  
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Schaakhamster wrote on 03/21/13 at 07:33:39:
interesting...

But don't forget this a DW book! Shocked
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #54 - 03/21/13 at 07:33:39
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 03/20/13 at 20:12:41:
Schaakhamster wrote on 03/20/13 at 13:58:30:
Did you find a reasonable way to fend off the Nxe5 piece sack after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Bc5 5. Nxe5 Nxe5 6. d4 ? I would love to play the classical (Berlin) but that line always put me off...

Yes, this is tricky, but I've recommended a line that I'm happy to play as Black, and indeed I even played this last Sunday!


interesting...
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #53 - 03/20/13 at 20:12:41
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Schaakhamster wrote on 03/20/13 at 13:58:30:
Did you find a reasonable way to fend off the Nxe5 piece sack after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Bc5 5. Nxe5 Nxe5 6. d4 ? I would love to play the classical (Berlin) but that line always put me off...

Yes, this is tricky, but I've recommended a line that I'm happy to play as Black, and indeed I even played this last Sunday!
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #52 - 03/20/13 at 13:58:30
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 03/18/13 at 20:11:58:
Stigma wrote on 03/18/13 at 14:49:32:
I notice from the contents page released on Everymanchess.com that there's a lot of material for anyone who wants to try the Classical Berlin - more than 100 pages if you include the d3 Berlin coverage!

My fault, I'm afraid, I wanted to do a thorough job!
Regarding the Aronian stuff (also me!) I think it is very good. 5.Bb3 was played against me in the Top12 last year, but Black can easily avoid this if he wants.


Did you find a reasonable way to fend off the Nxe5 piece sack after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Bc5 5. Nxe5 Nxe5 6. d4 ? I would love to play the classical (Berlin) but that line always put me off...
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #51 - 03/19/13 at 22:23:52
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I wonder about 9. d5 (instead of 9. Bb3), which was considered as leading to += by Iordachescu in Informator some years ago.
  
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Reply #50 - 03/19/13 at 19:50:10
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 03/19/13 at 12:40:48:
brabo wrote on 03/19/13 at 07:32:54:
Anyway I thought during my preparation that this fresh idea would likely throw black quickly out of book (no OTB games yet played with it) while keeping chances for an advantage.

Always a good idea! What did you have planned if Black defers taking on b3 (by playing 12...Bb7)?

I like your Bb7 which looks to be an improvement. Houdini gives 13.Bc2 but that looks nonsense if you want even a hint of an advantage. I would go for 13.Bg5 at least making the untangling a bit more difficult. I am not going to claim any advantage for white but the position isn't a dead draw either.
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #49 - 03/19/13 at 15:23:29
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 03/18/13 at 14:10:24:
I played a rapid event yesterday and managed to test 3 of the critical variations that I recommended - one win and two draws, but I was clearly better in both of the drawn games. Smiley

Well - we hope for a good analysis in the 1.e4 subscription-section of these games  Wink
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #48 - 03/19/13 at 12:40:48
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brabo wrote on 03/19/13 at 07:32:54:
Anyway I thought during my preparation that this fresh idea would likely throw black quickly out of book (no OTB games yet played with it) while keeping chances for an advantage.

Always a good idea! What did you have planned if Black defers taking on b3 (by playing 12...Bb7)?
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #47 - 03/19/13 at 07:32:54
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 03/19/13 at 01:27:48:
brabo wrote on 03/18/13 at 20:37:53:
I was impressed by the following correspondence game

It looks odd to play 10...Na5 instead of 10...d6 (threatening ...Bg4), but I suppose this will transpose if White plays 11 d5 Na5, and now the odd 12 Re1. After that it didn't look as though White was ever better, and I suppose both players were playing Houdini's first choice? Roll Eyes

I also don't believe that the moveorder Na5/d6 really matters in this line which was 1 of the reasons I chose it to cut down the lines to study.
I didn't check if the played moves are Houdinis first choice. It is possible as Houdini 1.0 was released mid of 2010 and the game somewhere started in september 2010 . Anyway we all know that in ICCF games engines are normally used as it is permitted by the rules.
I am not claiming any big advantage with Re1 but I found the game smoothly played. White is afterall SIM: http://www.iccf-webchess.com/PlayerDetails.aspx?id=390188 Also I like that after the typical breakmove f5, whites rook on e1 stands nice + the knight can via e2 be transferred to e6.
Anyway I thought during my preparation that this fresh idea would likely throw black quickly out of book (no OTB games yet played with it) while keeping chances for an advantage.
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
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brabo wrote on 03/18/13 at 20:37:53:
I was impressed by the following correspondence game

It looks odd to play 10...Na5 instead of 10...d6 (threatening ...Bg4), but I suppose this will transpose if White plays 11 d5 Na5, and now the odd 12 Re1. After that it didn't look as though White was ever better, and I suppose both players were playing Houdini's first choice? Roll Eyes
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #45 - 03/18/13 at 20:37:53
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Although I never encountered the Aronianvariation in a serious game till now, I had recently a look at it as preparation for an interclubgame. I was impressed by the following correspondencegame in which i liked very much the plan with Ne2:
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #44 - 03/18/13 at 20:11:58
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Stigma wrote on 03/18/13 at 14:49:32:
I notice from the contents page released on Everymanchess.com that there's a lot of material for anyone who wants to try the Classical Berlin - more than 100 pages if you include the d3 Berlin coverage!

My fault, I'm afraid, I wanted to do a thorough job!
Regarding the Aronian stuff (also me!) I think it is very good. 5.Bb3 was played against me in the Top12 last year, but Black can easily avoid this if he wants.
  
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Re: Dangerous Weapons: The Ruy Lopez
Reply #43 - 03/18/13 at 14:49:32
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I notice from the contents page released on Everymanchess.com that there's a lot of material for anyone who wants to try the Classical Berlin - more than 100 pages if you include the d3 Berlin coverage! I can't tell who wrote those chapters though (apart from Cox writing the d3 Berlin stuff).

I'm also attracted to the "Aronian variation" with ...a6 and ...Nge7 - at least Black seems to get easy play if White doesn't answer very concretely. White has scored well with 5.Bb3 on my database - I guess I'll have to buy the ebook to see how they propose to solve it.
  

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