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fling God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1591 Joined: 01/21/11 Gender:	Re: A ubiquitous symmetric position Reply #5 - 12/28/11 at 19:26:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	I just noticed that with White to move and the bishop on f1, Palliser says that this has not been recommended for Black since Portisch-Radulov, 1983. That game continued 7. Bg5 Be7 8. dxc5! Maybe this is improved on in some of the other games, but I haven't checked the comments yet.


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John Bartholomew YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 36 Location: St. Paul Joined: 06/08/11 Gender:	Re: A ubiquitous symmetric position Reply #4 - 12/12/11 at 23:40:48	Post Tools	Print Post
	GMTonyKosten wrote on 12/05/11 at 11:51:21: John Bartholomew wrote on 12/05/11 at 00:44:50: I checked the archives and past coverage seems scant (Tony did look at in 2003 in the game Mohr-Haba; ECO=A34). John Watson also analysed one of the Ivanchuk-Anand games, his annotations are always revealing. Indeed, you are correct Tony! Missed that one. In addition to Ivanchuk-Anand and Mohr-Haba, here are some other pertinent archived games subscribers might find interesting: Cobb,C (2405)-Cvitan,O (2491)/Saint Vincent 2005/[John Watson] Lushenkov,M (2441)-Tregubov,P (2598)/Olginka RUS 2011/[Nigel Davies] Roiz,M (2677)-Khenkin,I (2647)/Israel ISR 2009/[Nigel Davies] Sulskis,S (2564)-Nabaty,T (2581)/Ravenna ITA 2011/[Nigel Davies] Ivanchuk-Anand and Mohr-Haba reach the position you're asking about, F22. For the December update I'm annotating Svidler-Nepomniachtchi (in which Nepo liquidated the entire center with 7...cxd4 8.Nxd4 dxc4 - new for this site) so I'll try to bring all of this together and give a theoretical verdict.


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GMTonyKosten YaBB Administrator Offline Mr Dynamic? Posts: 3152 Location: Clermont-Ferrand Joined: 12/19/02 Gender:	Re: A ubiquitous symmetric position Reply #3 - 12/05/11 at 11:51:21	Post Tools	Print Post
	John Bartholomew wrote on 12/05/11 at 00:44:50: I checked the archives and past coverage seems scant (Tony did look at in 2003 in the game Mohr-Haba; ECO=A34). John Watson also analysed one of the Ivanchuk-Anand games, his annotations are always revealing.


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fling God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1591 Joined: 01/21/11 Gender:	Re: A ubiquitous symmetric position Reply #2 - 12/05/11 at 09:58:21	Post Tools	Print Post
	John Bartholomew wrote on 12/05/11 at 00:44:50: Interesting question - I've been curious about this line as well. In November it was seen in both Meier-Caruana (1-0, 63) and Svidler-Nepomniachtchi (1/2-1/2, 58). I checked the archives and past coverage seems scant (Tony did look at in 2003 in the game Mohr-Haba; ECO=A34). I'd definitely like to cover this in a future update! Please do, that would be useful!


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John Bartholomew YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 36 Location: St. Paul Joined: 06/08/11 Gender:	Re: A ubiquitous symmetric position Reply #1 - 12/05/11 at 00:44:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	Interesting question - I've been curious about this line as well. In November it was seen in both Meier-Caruana (1-0, 63) and Svidler-Nepomniachtchi (1/2-1/2, 58). I checked the archives and past coverage seems scant (Tony did look at in 2003 in the game Mohr-Haba; ECO=A34). I'd definitely like to cover this in a future update!


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A ubiquitous symmetric position
12/04/11 at 23:33:23

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The following position:

can be achieved from different openings. What is the current theoretical verdict on this position? I have two Ivanchuk - Anand games where Ivanchuk with White gets a big advantage out of the opening. But more recently Kramnik did not get anything against Grischuk.

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