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Re: Best move order to reach QGD
Reply #6 - 12/05/11 at 15:25:20
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Alias wrote on 12/05/11 at 12:14:13:
Easy. 1.Nf3 d5 and 1.c4 e6 and 2...d5.

Totally agree with this.
  
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Re: Best move order to reach QGD
Reply #5 - 12/05/11 at 15:21:37
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TN wrote on 12/05/11 at 13:52:03:
If you play the Sicilian as Black, you can also play a Symmetrical English with 1.Nf3 c5 (and 1.c4 c5), though the only way you'll get a transposition to a QGD then is if both sides are amenable to a Tarrasch transposition.


Yes, that is the way I play right now. I just thought I might try something new  Smiley. Playing ...e6 and ..d5 against most White set-ups would be a way to play these positions more often. I have actually also thought of the KI setup against flank openings, but I am not really a KID player (yet?).
  
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Re: Best move order to reach QGD
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If you play the Sicilian as Black, you can also play a Symmetrical English with 1.Nf3 c5 (and 1.c4 c5), though the only way you'll get a transposition to a QGD then is if both sides are amenable to a Tarrasch transposition.
  
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Re: Best move order to reach QGD
Reply #3 - 12/05/11 at 13:49:20
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Thanks!

Yes, I guess 1.c4 e6 2 ...d5 is what I have been intending to try. Just wondered if this was a bit inflexible, but at least I won't get "hit" by a boring Colle or Stonewall in this move order (which might happen after 1.d4 d5 2. anything but d4).

The Reti is something I guess you always have to prepare for, and it seems easier than the Mikenas (which is the reason I wanted to ask about the move order in the first place). Because I have been playing the Slav, and 1 ...c5 as a response to both 1.c4 and 1.Nf3, I am not really sure of the status of these Black responses. I usually play against them (1.c4 as White) and transpose to a Catalan or QGD pretty quickly!

Vass, that is true, I didn't think of that variation (1.c4 e6 2.e4 d5), but it doesn't look that scary, just like 1.c4 c6 2.e4 d5 isn't the line I'd fear the most.
  
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Re: Best move order to reach QGD
Reply #2 - 12/05/11 at 12:28:33
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If you don't want to play Mikenas (1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 e6 3.e4) then you have to go to 1.c4 e6 2.Nc3 d5 (2.Nf3 d5 3.g3 English/Reti or Catalan with 3.d4 and 4.g3), thus reaching the desired QGD after 3.d4.. I don't find 1.c4 e6 2.e4 d5 good enough for some white advantage, too..  Cool
  
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Re: Best move order to reach QGD
Reply #1 - 12/05/11 at 12:14:13
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Easy. 1.Nf3 d5 and 1.c4 e6 and 2...d5.
  
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Best move order to reach QGD
12/05/11 at 11:53:39
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First of all, I wasn't sure if this belongs to 1.d4 d5 or here at the Flank openings, but I think it might be better here. 

I've been thinking of starting to play the QGD (probably the TMB), but I haven't yet decided on what to play against flank opening move orders. Those of you who plays the QGD, what do you prefer to play against 1.c4 and 1.Nf3?

I am not sure if I'd wanna play 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 e6 as Black after 3.e4. I don't play the Nimzo (even though I have looked at it from time to time, mostly from the White side), but even so, without d4 played , there might not be a Nimzo or QGD. I think Karpov wasn't too happy about Black's chances either, IIRC.

Any thoughts?
  
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