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Hacking with 1.Nf3
Reply #35 - 07/17/11 at 16:02:31
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I usually play a mainline 1.Nf3 repertoire similar to the Kramnik series (Anti-Grunfeld, QGD, Slav, Symmetrical English, and Maroczy Bind).  This positional repertoire suits me fairly well.  However, winning the quiet positions in the Slav and Maroczy usually requires better technical / end game skills than my opponent, which is not always the case Smiley

I'm looking for suggestions to fill in a few holes in my fiesty "backup" repertoire.  These are lines I play in situations where I believe I might have better tactical skills than my opponent or in "must win" games.  I'm not looking for a theoretical edge here, just the practical advantages of unorthodox, tactical play with a bare minimum of theory.

Sensible "hacking" lines after 1.Nf3:

1...d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e4  Kramer's Gambit
1...d5 2.c4 d5 3.b4  Reverse Blumenfeld
1...d5 2.c4 c6 3.e3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.b3 Gurevich Anti-Slav
1...d5 2.c4 e6 3.d4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Bf4 Blackburn QGD with 0-0-0
1...f5 2.d3 Nf6 3.e4 Anti-Dutch
1...c5 2.e4 d6 (e6, Nc6 ) 3.b4 Sicilian Wing Gambit
1...Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.g4 Nimzo-English

I'm not worried about the various transpositions to the KID / Modern, since I believe white's edge in my mainline repertoire is already tactical enough.  My normal repertoire choice is 1.Nf3 Nf6 (g6) 2.c4 to avoid the grunfeld, benko and NID. 

However, 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 c5 is a real headache if you are looking for a sharp game.  I can't play 2.d4 since my mainline repertoire is designed to avoid the QID/NID and Grunfeld.  Either I need to find some lively gambits in the symmetrical english or chose some offbeat move 2.  Is there a favorable line of something unorthodox where Nf6 is sub-optimal? 

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.b4 seems a good possibility since I'm playing b4 vs. the Sicilian and the Reti Advance.  This would avoid lines of the Orangutan which tend to give black easy play, such as 1.b4 d5 2.Bb2 Qd6 or 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 Bxb4.  Is the Orangutan with an early Nf3 unbalancing enough to play for a win against an opponent who is better than me in a quiet technical game?

Any other repertoire recommendations greatly appreciated!
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #34 - 02/17/12 at 08:48:05
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I'll go 1.Nf3, c6 till I've sorted this out.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #33 - 02/17/12 at 01:14:25
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Very few folks play Nf6 intending a Slav. People over-worry. Never seen it, certainly would never occur at club level.
People just learn an opening, rock up after work to a match, lob the moves onto the board.
1...Nf6 is another opening, another book.

Delchev is presenting something v d5. Just that. 'Does it exactly what it says on the tin.'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXznmGz2fy4
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #32 - 02/16/12 at 22:39:26
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 02/16/12 at 21:26:57:
I suppose one would have to play 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4, which avoids the Slav due to 2...c6 3. e3 or 3. g3, and Semi-Slav/QGD/QGA after 2...e6 due to 3. g3 or 3. e3 as well. But then the only problem would be 2...c5.


I can't see 3.g3 in reaction to 2...c6; that's right where Black's c-pawn should be to fight the fianchetto. I know that b3 in combination with e3, and no move of the d-pawn,  is considered good against the Black's attempt to reach a Slav, but I wonder how good it is if Black plays ...d6, ...Nbd7 and ...e5, switching to an Old Indian or King's Indian formation. Neither e3 nor b3 seems all that felicitous then, to me anyway.
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #31 - 02/16/12 at 22:37:45
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 02/16/12 at 21:26:57:
I suppose one would have to play 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4, which avoids the Slav due to 2...c6 3. e3 or 3. g3, and Semi-Slav/QGD/QGA after 2...e6 due to 3. g3 or 3. e3 as well. But then the only problem would be 2...c5.


There's also 2...b6, 2...g6, 2...Nc6 and 2...d6.
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #30 - 02/16/12 at 21:26:57
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I suppose one would have to play 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4, which avoids the Slav due to 2...c6 3. e3 or 3. g3, and Semi-Slav/QGD/QGA after 2...e6 due to 3. g3 or 3. e3 as well. But then the only problem would be 2...c5.
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #29 - 02/16/12 at 21:11:09
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Dangerous really Smiley Yes its not all that 'natural' for them to start 1.. Nf6 rather than 1..d5 but they're not losing anything doing so and its best to organise to cope with the transpositions.

Otherwise someone will spot it on a database and....
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #28 - 02/16/12 at 20:23:44
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I suppose it is safe to assume that those who play 1. Nf3 Nf6 will not play the Slav, Semi-Slav, or QGA, but it would be a slight dilemma if after 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. d4 d5.
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #27 - 02/16/12 at 10:04:52
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Well not totally different with black still entirely capable of going c6/d5 or e6/d5? Means you need to go c4 and then b3/g3 at need to stay in the Reti stuff.

But yes this also implies a whole bundle of other distinctive lines.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #26 - 02/16/12 at 09:51:58
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 02/16/12 at 06:03:46:
I will buy this book to play the systems recommended against the Slav, Semi-Slav, QGA systems and probably use Avrukh's recommendations on the Catalan, but how would one use this Réti-style repertoire against 1...Nf6?


You can't, but 1...Nf6 is a completely different kettle of fish.
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #25 - 02/16/12 at 06:03:46
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I will buy this book to play the systems recommended against the Slav, Semi-Slav, QGA systems and probably use Avrukh's recommendations on the Catalan, but how would one use this Réti-style repertoire against 1...Nf6?
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #24 - 02/10/12 at 23:25:23
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1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 c5 is rather harder to sensibly avoid Smiley
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #23 - 02/10/12 at 21:18:19
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MartinC wrote on 02/10/12 at 18:26:20:
Well the KID/Grunfeld are perfectly fine to good fun play against.

Against the KID I rather have a pawn on f3 iso a Knight ....
The Grünfeld is no problem after 1.Nf3, those lines without d2-d4 are attractive.

MartinC wrote on 02/10/12 at 18:26:20:
The Symmetrical English probably the bit which gets a bit trickier to get sharp.

As far as 1.Nf3 c5 is concerned: me coming from 1.e4 would just play 2.e4 and 3.d4 (remember, I'm a corr. player).

Viking wrote on 02/10/12 at 19:58:07:
I dont see how the nimzo english will fit with the reti QG b3 structure as black has the option of going 3..d5 instead of the nimzo characteristic 3..Bb4...

No problem for me, iso the Neo-Catalan I would play d2-d4 at a suitable point anyway. I'm mainly interested in a way to meet/avoid the Slav Accepted (...dxc4). Yeah, the combination of a Bishop on b2 and a storm with g2-g4-g5 appeals to my caveman instincts. But then I find it hard to suppress them after 1.Nf3 Nf6.
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #22 - 02/10/12 at 20:59:00
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Good point Smiley Suppose I'm somehow unsure if 3 g3 really quite thematically fits with all the tactical stuff elsewhere, but if after the reti it'll have to be that.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #21 - 02/10/12 at 19:58:07
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MartinC wrote on 02/10/12 at 18:26:20:
Well the KID/Grunfeld are perfectly fine to good fun play against.  Nizmo English too, with the g4 theme even thematically consistent Wink


I dont see how the nimzo english will fit with the reti QG b3 structure as black has the option of going 3..d5 instead of the nimzo characteristic 3..Bb4...
  
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