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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #116 - 03/15/12 at 22:30:57
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Actually, in my experience, most players under 2000 would have no clue how to get to the main line. Therefore, many White players will simply deviate early. Or else they will likely avoid the main line of fear of being outprepared.


Even in that case, at least the book offers recommendations for 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3.
  

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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #115 - 03/15/12 at 09:02:34
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Actually, in my experience, most players under 2000 would have no clue how to get to the main line. Therefore, many White players will simply deviate early. Or else they will likely avoid the main line of fear of being outprepared.
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #114 - 03/14/12 at 23:41:55
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The book is definitely extremely dense and detailed. It reminds me of The Complete Najdorf and The Complete Najdorf: 6. Bg5 in terms of detail. I think some players below 2200 can read this book though. I would memorise the bold lines only and use the ideas in the footnotes for sidelines.

An ambitious 1800 or 1900 can probably use the bold moves to learn and not attend to all of the footnotes in detail.  This is probably the detail that a 2300 would definitely need, all the way up to a 2800, but still useful for under 2200.
  

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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #113 - 03/14/12 at 17:22:53
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The book sounded great, especially since I already have some Slav/Semi-Slav experience, so I ordered directly from the UK. It arrived yesterday.

And man is it complicated. When an opening book gives you solutions on move 25 while saying "Black must play precisely here", you know it is serious. Plus there are multiple places where Scherbakov admits that Black's best option is to transpose to the Botvinnik Semi-Slav, so hopefully you already have that under your belt!

On the other hand, the writing is very clear, and is good about talking about larger issues than just variations. There's also a nice narrative thread through the chapters; the structure of the book is nicer than just a big list of variations. It's also extremely (maybe too?) comprehensive. It certainly feels like a book that could have been published by Quality Chess, which is a large compliment.

My conclusion is that it's too much for this 1900 to handle, even though I'm a better variation-memorizer than most. If you're sub-2200, browse through it before deciding if it's for you.
  
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Reply #112 - 03/13/12 at 02:45:51
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Also, the paper feels very different. As one post said anteriormente, the paper feels similar to the current paper used in Quality Chess books.
  

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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #111 - 03/10/12 at 19:50:44
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I actually would like to see more books like this. Variations and deep analyses that will be helpful especially for 2300+. An opening such as the Noteboom required heavy analysis anyway.

Page 190 has a variation numbered "D42221", a branch on Move 22. Again I do not complain about the extreme density of the analyses; instead I wish more opening books were at this level of detail, just like Grandmaster Repertoire series.
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #110 - 03/10/12 at 19:25:19
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Without Nf6 and the Bg5 possibility, the Exchange in the Triangle version is almost toothless as Black can easily contest the b1-h7 diagonal.

Duh, silly me. I should have known that. Thanks!
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #109 - 03/10/12 at 09:29:09
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I got the book during the week.

This is a very broad repertoire book.  He covers lines for black that he doesnt even belive in (which learns us why NOT to play a certain line). He covers in general 2-3 answers for black and more white replies (of course).

I would say that this is a book for the advanced player. There are a lot of theory and a little bit of a jungle...at least for me. There are no illustrative games in this book so if you like trees of variaitions you certainly like this book.

For my own prefrence this book could have been done better with more verbal explanations of strategies . But in some places Ruslan shows that he really can explain strategy for the reader in a very good way. It should have just been a little more of it.

All in all I like the book and I am glad I have it. But it could have been done better when it comes to verbal explanations of ideas and strategies.

I give it  Smiley Smiley Smiley,5   (3,5)   of  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley.

I would have given it 5/5 if t contained more verbal explanation. BUT if you just search a book where variations are the most important... I give it 5/5. And it is a nice book for the correspondance player.
  

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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #108 - 03/10/12 at 08:50:47
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Seth_Xoma wrote on 03/10/12 at 03:32:54:
Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 03/10/12 at 00:45:24:
Seth_Xoma wrote on 03/07/12 at 22:21:04:
What variation does Scherbakov recommend against the Exchange?


4...exd5 against Exchange.


I guess I'm wondering whether he's advocating the Exchange system as in Cox's book or the old Be7, Nbd7, c6, 0-0, Re8, Nf8, etc, variation?


Without Nf6 and the Bg5 possibility, the Exchange in the Triangle version is almost toothless as Black can easily contest the b1-h7 diagonal.
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #107 - 03/10/12 at 08:33:36
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gwnn wrote on 03/10/12 at 08:00:43:
where do you see the exchange variation covered?


Page 433: 3. Nc3 c6 4. cxd5 exd5.
  

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Reply #106 - 03/10/12 at 08:00:43
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where do you see the exchange variation covered?
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #105 - 03/10/12 at 03:32:54
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Seth_Xoma wrote on 03/07/12 at 22:21:04:
What variation does Scherbakov recommend against the Exchange?


4...exd5 against Exchange.


I guess I'm wondering whether he's advocating the Exchange system as in Cox's book or the old Be7, Nbd7, c6, 0-0, Re8, Nf8, etc, variation?
  
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #104 - 03/10/12 at 00:45:24
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Seth_Xoma wrote on 03/07/12 at 22:21:04:
What variation does Scherbakov recommend against the Exchange?


4...exd5 against Exchange.

I received the book today and it is excellent, quite larger than most books and about the same size as the Quality Chess Grandmaster Repertoire books in terms of width and length. Feels almost like 1 kg. Tree format with over 400 pages of variations, something I am not complaining about.
  

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Reply #103 - 03/07/12 at 22:21:04
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Re: Scherbakov Book on Noteboom,Marshall Gambit
Reply #102 - 03/07/12 at 17:40:24
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I've ordered this book, since for years the Noteboom was my main defence to 1.d4 and I still play it occasionally.  I agree that at sub-master level White players are often at a loss; at a tournament a few months ago, I played the Noteboom against a 2000ish player and at one point had spent about 5 minutes to his 1 hour, only to still be well within "book."  Needless to say I won that game without even really having to try (I think the time control was 40/2, and he spent the entire hour getting to move 10 or so)!  White players can end up completely lost quite easily if they haven't done any preparation.

I had a bad score in the ultra main-line, though; maybe this book will help.
  
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