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Reply #12 - 02/23/12 at 00:38:39
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It is good to see Chess-Stars publish repertoire books first on the Petroff last year and now on the Berlin Defence. I think these two defences, in addition to the Najdorf, are extremely difficult for 1. e4 players to prove advantages against. I think it would have been more useful though to perhaps provide two lines to the main line endgame with 9. Nc3.
  
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Reply #11 - 02/23/12 at 00:21:46
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Ametanoitos wrote on 02/22/12 at 13:58:49:
Didn't Kotronias dealed with this ...h5 idea in his book "GM Battle Manual" quite convinsigly? I mean that, in my opinion, he proved that White has at leat a small edge in these positions.


Ah, you know this is last week's "refutation".
Navara played the Kotronias plan against Karjakin in Tata Steel some one month ago, and lost. He followed the plan precisely: He exchanged a pair of rooks, kept the black squared bishop after black's ...h4, and... lost.
  
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Reply #10 - 02/22/12 at 14:10:21
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Ametanoitos wrote on 02/22/12 at 13:58:49:
Didn't Kotronias dealed with this ...h5 idea in his book "GM Battle Manual" quite convinsigly? I mean that, in my opinion, he proved that White has at leat a small edge in these positions.


I'd forgotten about the relevant chapter in that book, thanks for reminding me! Now I will be able to win with both colours in the Berlin Wall, using Kotronias for White and Cox for Black.  Grin

I intend to compare where the two books deviate but obviously it will take some time.
  
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Didn't Kotronias dealed with this ...h5 idea in his book "GM Battle Manual" quite convinsigly? I mean that, in my opinion, he proved that White has at leat a small edge in these positions.
  
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Reply #8 - 02/22/12 at 13:28:01
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PANFR wrote on 02/22/12 at 11:52:52:
TN wrote on 02/22/12 at 11:04:26:
True, but I don't think 9...Ne7 and 9...h6 should be objectively worse than 9...Ke8.


Of course they aren't. The Berlin Ball endgame has a multitude of sound, healthy approaches. Cox sort-of advocated 9...Ne7, although he touched the other approaches as well.
Sometimes 9...h6 transposes to Ke8 lines, but the Lysyi book (which I do not have) focuses on ...h5 lines (judging from the contents pdf).


Yeah, there are some transpositional options in the Berlin Wall, though even without them the lines can be a bit confusing to navigate with either colour. I also have Cox's Berlin Wall book which does a great job of organising all the key opening, middlegame and endgame information. Naturally I'll see how I go using Cox's ideas before I make a final decision on whether to buy this book.

  
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TN wrote on 02/22/12 at 11:04:26:
True, but I don't think 9...Ne7 and 9...h6 should be objectively worse than 9...Ke8.


Of course they aren't. The Berlin Ball endgame has a multitude of sound, healthy approaches. Cox sort-of advocated 9...Ne7, although he touched the other approaches as well.
Sometimes 9...h6 transposes to Ke8 lines, but the Lysyi book (which I do not have) focuses on ...h5 lines (judging from the contents pdf).
  
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True, but I don't think 9...Ne7 and 9...h6 should be objectively worse than 9...Ke8.
  
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Reply #5 - 02/22/12 at 10:32:58
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Yes, 9...Ke8 is sort-of-mainline. At least Aronian has barely tried any other move here the last couple of years.
  
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I see the book is with the 9...Ke8 variation. Is this the most popular? It seems quite solid.
  
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 02/18/12 at 01:34:50:
The Berlin Defence is certainly more topical than the Arkhangelsk. And I was waiting for a good repertoire book on the Berlin. The last book I remember was the Quality Chess book by John Cox.



The only book.

bragesjo wrote on 02/21/12 at 09:41:28:
Speaking of Berlin, I got to think of the Kasparov-Kramnik match. I bought a swedish book that covered that match and it was to the most boring wch match I have ever seen!


To each their own, I thought it was the most interesting. The last two Anand matches have been quite boring to me.
  
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Speaking of Berlin, I got to think of the Kasparov-Kramnik match. I bought a swedish book that covered that match and it was to the most boring wch match I have ever seen!
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The Berlin Defence is certainly more topical than the Arkhangelsk. And I was waiting for a good repertoire book on the Berlin. The last book I remember was the Quality Chess book by John Cox.
  
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The Berlin Defence - Igor Lysyj, Roman Ovetchkin
01/12/12 at 10:17:11
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New year is starting with very good news! A Chess Stars book by Igor Lysyj and Roman Ovetchkin - "The Berlin Defence"
http://www.chess-stars.com/graphics/eshop/books_special/contents_Berlin.pdf

It seems they follow the traditional system (Quick repertoire, Step by step and Complete Games) of Chess Stars repertoire books, altough I prefer the latest and improved system (in my view) used by Delchev in Safest Grunfeld!? (Main ideas) and wish future books will appear all in this way, but it seems not the case by now.  Cry
Anyway, I look forward to these new books.  Smiley
Any possibility of a Chess Stars book on the Ruy Lopez Archangel? The latest one by John Emms is a bit outdated. (another idea is for John Emms to give us a second edition of his Archangel book but this time maybe on the new series "Move by Move!"  Roll Eyes
New year wishes...
  
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