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Re: Deciding what to play against the closed games
Reply #3 - 04/05/12 at 23:21:30
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Which main line of the Grünfeld looks drawish?

And if you do not like the Symmetrical, you do not have to play it, or the Anti-Grünfeld systems. You can play 1...e5 or another line. Usually you are not relinquishing the chance to play the Grünfeld because players who play Anti-Grünfeld systems are trying to avoid it in the first place.
  

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Re: Deciding what to play against the closed games
Reply #2 - 04/05/12 at 17:37:31
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You can try "The New Old Indian" as per Cherniaev & Prokuronov.  Wink
Or even "The Sniper"?!  Huh
  
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Re: Deciding what to play against the closed games
Reply #1 - 04/05/12 at 16:59:13
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There is no miracle cure in opening theory, or everybody would play it.
Lower the bar a bit.

Disclaimer: I don't mean to be nasty or sarcastic; I'm completely serious.
  

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Deciding what to play against the closed games
04/05/12 at 15:22:07
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Hi,

really I am not sure what to play against the closed games as black ... since I want to play for a win in every game ...

Problem-Openings:
the problem with nimzo is it's not universal, don't know what to combine it with, neither the QGD nor the QID/Catalan are to my liking, d5 QGD or Tarrasch are both not really my case, 
the normal slav is too passive, the semi-slav too theoretical and they are not universally playable against c4 since white can play e4 at some point, a6 slav seems good, but it's not universally playable for example 1.c4 still remains a problem, the dutch is not my case either, it's incorrect, stonewall is the only playable dutch, but it's just passive and the best move is often f5-f7 ... what also not like is neither e5 against c4, although I unserstand it is theoretically the best choice against c4, but somehow I cannot really make it work, neither open or with Bb4, ... nor do I really like c5 ... you often just end up in crummed positions, and white can play as passively as he wants and does not get punished for it ... for some time now I played a combination of nimzo/benoni/symmetrical ... while I like the nimzo, I don't really believe anymore in the Benoni and I don't like the passivity in the symmetrical ...

My choices right now:

1.) Gruenfeld, pro is you get immediately to play ... d5 against 1.c4 and throw out these mostly untalented c4 players out of their autopilot and you can get wins pretty fast against them, because when things get open and tactical most of them just fail to see even easy combinations working against them ... but the mainline of the gruenfeld seems are very drawish to me many people like to play it .... there's not much going on there ...
also there are anti-gruenfeld lines many gruenfeld players avoid by transposing into symmetrical english openings ... so these lines are probably not that good for black, but a transposition to the symmetrical english is not much to my liking ...

2.) King's Indian, although I excel in tactics and also can more easily thinkout side of patterns, I didn't play this opening ... because of its closedness and it's reputation to be very theoretical and sometimes it looks passive  for example in the variation (Gligoric?) where white plays early Be3 like kasparov played against carlsen ... but the more I look at games of the kid ... the better it seems to me ... I also liked to play the KIA as white, against 1.c4 you can build yourself up like in the closed sicilian ... I liked to play tiger's modern, but I don't believe it's fully correct, white not being obliged to c4 and being able to play c3 or Nc3 he can enforce his center pretty good with f4 without his center getting unstable like it does in the king's indian 4 pawns attack ... so the kid is a better version or theoretically more correct version of the modern ... the more and more I look into it, the KID is my only salvation to my problem with black against the closed games!
  
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