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Re: New book: Chess Developments – The Pirc
Reply #45 - 09/09/13 at 23:18:13
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JEH wrote on 09/09/13 at 12:00:18:
James Vigus wrote on 09/09/13 at 09:30:22:
Indeed ...b5 can be unexpectedly weakening

This is a nice youTube channel.


I will second that as well. Looks like St Louis has got its act together and started to provide all these "educational" stuff free on youtube. They did no have these in the initial years. Not sure whether Yasser Seirawan had anything to do with this as he was appointed St Louis 2nd GM-in-residence last year.

In any event, good to see the money is being spent on the mere patzers and common woodpushers as well as the elite chessplayers.
  

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Reply #44 - 09/09/13 at 12:00:18
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James Vigus wrote on 09/09/13 at 09:30:22:
Indeed ...b5 can be unexpectedly weakening


This game highlights the weakening of the c5 square due to b5, aggravated after e5 and the exchange dxe, so Seirawan seems to be recommending e6 with some flexible crouching.

When Ivanchuk's bishop lands on c5 and causes problems for where Kramnik's rook needs to go, it's mostly downhill from there.

This is a nice youTube channel.
  

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Reply #43 - 09/09/13 at 09:30:22
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Thanks for this, JEH. When I first played through Ivanchuk-Kramnik I thought K should have played 10...e6, as Seirawan recommends, but then felt he'd have rejected it due to 11 e5 dxe5 12 Nxe5 (not considered by Seirawan) and now 12...Nxe5 would be a dodgy exchange sacrifice because of Bf3 and Ba7. Indeed ...b5 can be unexpectedly weakening and is often held back in the similar Classical line with 6...e6. Disclaimer: I haven't checked this with an engine.
  
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Re: New book: Chess Developments – The Pirc
Reply #42 - 09/07/13 at 17:29:54
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kylemeister wrote on 09/05/13 at 14:08:28:
Speaking of the 1970s, I seem to recall 9...Qb4 receiving some consideration in The Pirc Defence by Keene and Botterill.


Hmm, not sure what the opposite idea of Chess Developments is. How about "Chess Archaeology - The Pirc", trying to dig up old ideas and make them fly  Cool

Here's another nice Seirawan video on the Pirc, where he covers what will probably be the most infamous Pirc game of 2013, Ivanchuk vs. Kramnik from the Candidates. These early a6 ideas in the Pirc are quite interesting, and also very interesting to see how Seirawan thinks Kramnik's play could be improved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1gWIfVajlM
  

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Reply #41 - 09/05/13 at 14:08:28
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Speaking of the 1970s, I seem to recall 9...Qb4 receiving some consideration in The Pirc Defence by Keene and Botterill.
  
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Reply #40 - 09/05/13 at 13:41:59
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Thanks for the link James. I'm always interested in material on the Pirc, and I love listening to Seirawan. Fascinating to get an insight into his prep in the pre-computer era. I'm often wondering how to find "abandoned" ideas that can be revisited under modern scrutiny.

I'd not seen his audacious pawn grab idea before. It looks very dangerous for Black. But it seems it might be playable, but not for the exchange sac (variation below), where Black might have some practical chances, but for the line he abandons after Rxe7 (mainline below) which seems to lead to full compensation for the pawn sac for Black.

  

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Reply #39 - 09/05/13 at 07:42:00
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Interesting to see that Seirawan says that the Pirc is, or used to be, his favourite opening. The line he analyses in this new video is dubious according to the engines, as he admits at the end, but seems worth exploring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJmjt9GGhA8
I'm curious about the fact that he suggests 1970s theoreticians were unanimous about 4 f4 Bg7 5 Nf3 c5 6 dxc5 being the critical line against the Pirc...
  
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Reply #38 - 10/23/12 at 01:23:58
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[quote author=625A5B465B5B505952350 link=1335001228/37#37 date=1350952432][quote author=46454F49280 link=1335001228/29#29 date=1346942328]Anyone got any more thoughts on this? I'd be interested to know if 4 Be3 c6!? is still considered to be under a cloud owing to the 'Archbishop Attack'. I was looking at this the other day and wondering whether 5 h3 Nbd7 6 g4 b5 7 a3 [u]Nb6[/u] (as mentioned by Rowson somewhere on ChessPub) is so bad for Black. At any rate can this be [i]more[/i] thankless than the grim-seeming 4 ...Bg7 5 Qd2 c6 6 Bh6 Bh6 7 Qh6 Qa5 8 Bd3 c5 9 d5?[/quote]

In TPIBAW Vigus also mentions 6.a4!? although I don't think he gives any analysis.  I can't remember at the moment if Rowson looked at this too.
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Ok, I stopped being so lazy and I found that Watson had covered this possibility on Chesspublishing, giving an intriguing and dynamic idea for Black in the notes.
  
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Reply #37 - 10/23/12 at 00:33:52
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[quote author=46454F49280 link=1335001228/29#29 date=1346942328]Anyone got any more thoughts on this? I'd be interested to know if 4 Be3 c6!? is still considered to be under a cloud owing to the 'Archbishop Attack'. I was looking at this the other day and wondering whether 5 h3 Nbd7 6 g4 b5 7 a3 [u]Nb6[/u] (as mentioned by Rowson somewhere on ChessPub) is so bad for Black. At any rate can this be [i]more[/i] thankless than the grim-seeming 4 ...Bg7 5 Qd2 c6 6 Bh6 Bh6 7 Qh6 Qa5 8 Bd3 c5 9 d5?[/quote]

In TPIBAW Vigus also mentions 6.a4!? although I don't think he gives any analysis.  I can't remember at the moment if Rowson looked at this too.
  
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Re: New book: Chess Developments – The Pirc
Reply #36 - 10/01/12 at 17:41:37
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The Perfect Pirc-modern: Strategic Ideas & Powerful Weapons by Viktor Moskalenko ... from New In Chess in March 2013.
I know those French books ... so it looks like very interesting book .... just wait!
  
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Re: New book: Chess Developments – The Pirc
Reply #35 - 09/14/12 at 18:42:24
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Markovich wrote on 09/14/12 at 14:30:21:
It's weird this came up, because for the past two weeks, I've been poring over Vigus's earlier book.


P.S. I can explain the wierdness. I've been poring over books on 1. ...e5 and the Tarrasch, and so the Universe is kept in balance.
  

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Reply #34 - 09/14/12 at 16:00:33
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Markovich wrote on 09/14/12 at 14:30:21:
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It seems to me that there are quite a few systems that tend to lead, with good play by both, to positions where White enjoys some advantage but which are sufficiently dynamic that Black can hope to win. I think the Pirc is one of them.

Indeed! That's why Ivanchuk, for example, use it. I saw even Kramnik played it on rapid tournaments. And other high class players, too..  Wink
  
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Reply #33 - 09/14/12 at 15:56:37
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Markovich wrote on 09/14/12 at 14:30:21:
It seems to me that there are quite a few systems that tend to lead, with good play by both, to positions where White enjoys some advantage but which are sufficiently dynamic that Black can hope to win. I think the Pirc is one of them.


I've been playing the Pirc for decades, and I think this is a fair assessment. If you can't decide whether 1. ...e5 or 1...c5 is best, you can get to play ideas from both.

When I look at Breyer lines where the Bishop wiggles back from e7 to g7 to get a position like a classical Pirc, I wonder if it should have gone there earlier  Wink

My first opening was the Dragon, but I switched to the Pirc because it seems Dragon like, but without the theory. Thing is though, it's got quite a lot of its own theory.

The downside of the Pirc move order is allowing the critical Austrian 4. f4 and direct gung ho attacks on the weakened dark squares around King position, most critically with 4. Be3.

But still, Black has a choice of ways of dealing with those. It's game on.
  

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Reply #32 - 09/14/12 at 14:30:21
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It's weird this came up, because for the past two weeks, I've been poring over Vigus's earlier book. I don't know enough to say whether it's too optimistic, but I do observe that it is rather frank about the problems facing Black, even in the variations it recommends to him. I certainly will buy Vigus's next book as soon as it becomes available; he has authored some of the best opening books of which I know, and I doubt that this one will be an exception.

It seems to me that there are quite a few systems that tend to lead, with good play by both, to positions where White enjoys some advantage but which are sufficiently dynamic that Black can hope to win. I think the Pirc is one of them.
  

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Reply #31 - 09/06/12 at 16:43:11
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Hi James and great to hear from you on the thread! Yes, I noticed McNab allows this stuff -- is he a masochist?!

Do you have a view on Rowson's anti-Archbishop 7 ...Nb6? Haven't explored deeply but some messing about with engines suggested Black could have counterplay ...
  
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Reply #30 - 09/06/12 at 16:30:35
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I'm due to write a couple of updates on this book in the coming year, so will keep an occasional eye on this thread for any ideas/requests. Michael, the line you mention does indeed seem quite grim to me, but McNab continues to allow it (as have even stronger players), so it may be too early to write off Black's resources completely. MartinC, fair point about over-punctuation!!!
  
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Reply #29 - 09/06/12 at 14:38:48
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Anyone got any more thoughts on this? I'd be interested to know if 4 Be3 c6!? is still considered to be under a cloud owing to the 'Archbishop Attack'. I was looking at this the other day and wondering whether 5 h3 Nbd7 6 g4 b5 7 a3 [u]Nb6[/u] (as mentioned by Rowson somewhere on ChessPub) is so bad for Black. At any rate can this be [i]more[/i] thankless than the grim-seeming 4 ...Bg7 5 Qd2 c6 6 Bh6 Bh6 7 Qh6 Qa5 8 Bd3 c5 9 d5?
  
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Reply #28 - 08/30/12 at 08:37:51
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Well then get to it Smiley There's no doubt lots of ammunition in the databases on that position after 7 d5. Detailed computer analysis maybe not a huge help but plans will be.

In fact he (explicitly!) doesn't cover 6.. c5 7 d5 in TPIBW either, because it's not strictly a pirc then. Given the number of other viable options vs the classical covered in detail not worrying.

As for the overall viability of the Pirc, it clearly is in decent health or you wouldn't see so many 2700's using it in the book Wink It's not the sort of opening that'll ever yield clear cut sorts of equality though.
  
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Reply #27 - 08/29/12 at 18:06:33
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Basis is analysis and experience (after a lost game with black in this exact position) but i am supposed to find new paths for Black and not to give hints for White.
  
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Reply #26 - 08/29/12 at 17:01:45
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I wonder what the basis is for saying that 11. h3 is "! +=".  News to me.

(I also wonder why old book moves like 5. Be2 and 6...c5 are "!?", but it seems to be the trend.)

Some sources have thought that that Schmid position after 7. d5 shouldn't lead to advantage for White after 7...Na6 or 7...e6.
  
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Reply #25 - 08/29/12 at 16:44:14
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If "both sides can go wrong and if it's more important for Pirc players than the objective evalution." i dont know what to discuss here about the analysis given in this book and the shape of the Pirc defense ... What's your first move after c5!? d5!
  
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Reply #24 - 08/29/12 at 13:54:51
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How exactly does White get an advantage in the Schmid Benoni? I've struggled a lot with White in these positions, so much so that I've taken it up as Black via precisely this 6...c5 7.d5 move order. White has to watch all these pawn breaks that are not easy to contain: ...b5, ...e6, ...f5...

At least it's an unbalanced pawn structure where both sides can go wrong, which is often more important for Pirc players than the objective evalution.
  

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Reply #23 - 08/29/12 at 13:11:06
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But it's not meant to be a comprehensive book Smiley Just new things. To get comprehensive you need to twin it with the pirc in black and white.

If the theory of 7 d5 had changed notably then he'd likely have included something. As it happens it seems like the best recent game with 7 d5 was Gashimov winning nicely, so that's what you get Wink

It's made quite clear that you've got to work out if you like the position after 7 d5 out for yourself.

The one thing which struck me most actually was simply the names using this stuff as black - lots of games from very serious players. Rather more so than I remember seeing in TPIBW.
  
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Reply #22 - 08/29/12 at 11:45:36
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One exemple of many others, after 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be2 0-0 6.0-0 Bg4 7.Be3 Nc6 8.Qd2 e5 9.d5 Ne7 10.Rad1 Bd7 he only gives 11.Ne1 but 11.h3! += is not analysed. And in the line 6 ... c5!? (Vigus) he analyse 7.dxc5 but only a extract of a game with 7.d5! and Bg4 witch is +=.
  
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Reply #21 - 08/29/12 at 02:12:34
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Please give examples of why you think it is too optimistic.

@MartinC
Yeah, James Vigus and myself have discussed this over the years. ever since I got really battered by Nakamura.

I suggest avoiding the h6, g5 stuff, just get on with c6, b5 etc. Book covers this well.

  
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Reply #20 - 08/28/12 at 15:59:43
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From the way I remember my impressions of the book, if he's being too optimistic for black after 4 Bg5 then black should just resign on the spot Wink iirc after 4 Be3 he also kind of shoots down a previous idea of his from the pirc in black and white.

It's not meant to be showing you how to get a good game vs anything of course. Just updating his previous (really rather good) work.
  
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Reply #19 - 08/28/12 at 14:44:34
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Hy Pirc players ! I bought the book but did not found how to get a good game with Black against the Classical variation 5.Be2!?(Karpov) The agressiv 4.Be3!? (Kasparov) or the terrific 4.Bg5! (Byrne). It seems to me that the book is too much optimistic for Black.
  
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Reply #18 - 06/28/12 at 06:34:57
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From the pdf-excerpt:
"...only the white repertoire work by Andrew Greet has made any significant impact on Pirc theory. By far the most useful source has been the ChessPublishing website, where John Watson has put the Pirc (and TPIBAW) under the microscope in many updates. I contributed some updates as Watson’s guest, and since then Pirc annotations on this website have appeared by grandmasters Neil McDonald, Milos Pavlovic and Gawain Jones."
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Yes!..  Wink
  
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Reply #17 - 06/27/12 at 15:58:19
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A pdf-excerpt is available. It is an overview which lines are analyzed within the Austrian Attack with 5...0-0.
It covers everything that I have expected. Looks very good to me.

http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Chess_Developments%3A_The_Pirc
  
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JEH wrote on 06/21/12 at 09:06:21:
Interesting to see this concept being expanded in a "New Developments" series, espcially for me with the choice of the first one. Ah, if only there was a website with current games annotated by top players that I could keep in touch with latest developments from monthly updates. I guess I can only dream...


http://www.chesspublishing.com/content/6/index.htm ; Wink
  

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Vass wrote on 06/21/12 at 10:07:24:
JEH wrote on 06/21/12 at 09:06:21:
Chess is a great hobby  Smiley

...and an arduous profession.  Wink


Ah, small world.

I like to think travelleing to interesting places to win money playing Chess would make up for the occasional afternoon spent suffering with the Pirc  Grin
  

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JEH wrote on 06/21/12 at 09:06:21:
Chess is a great hobby  Smiley

...and an arduous profession.  Wink
I'm glad to hear about an old friend of mine. We played in various tournaments some twenty years ago. And his favourite band was Roxette.. Eeeh, memories!.. Then he chose chess as his profession while I went my way..
Anyway, back on topic - 20 years later I see him playing Modern, Caro-Cann with ...g6 (and sometimes Pirc) even against much stronger opponents. Which is not very common at this level..  Wink
  
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Reply #13 - 06/21/12 at 09:06:21
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I am very much looking forward to this book, being a Pirc player for decades, and having been hugely impressed by Vigus's Pirc in Black and White.

It's been a long while since we got a "New Ideas in the Pirc", rather than just a repertoire book, or a coverage of the whole opening.

Interesting to see this concept being expanded in a "New Developments" series, espcially for me with the choice of the first one. Ah, if only there was a website with current games annotated by top players that I could keep in touch with latest developments from monthly updates. I guess I can only dream...

One of the sample games evoked some nice memories for me. I was playing in the Vienna Open in 2011. Beautiful city. Superb tournament. Highly recommended.

On one of the day trips organised for the players, we were approached by this chap asking if we knew somewhere he could watch the Arsenal game. Obviously being English, in any foreign city, we would know such a thing. And as it happens, we did. So we hooked up with him to go and watch it later. Turns out he was Bulgarian Grandmaster Marjan Petrov, and he was a big Arsenal fan. Really nice guy, and we watched his progress in the tournament with interest.

One of the sample games given is Khenkin - Petrov, Vienna 2011. I watched this game live, from about around the time of the exchange sacrifice, and I had no idea who was winning  Shocked. Khenkin was favoirite for the tournament at that point, and so this win was key to Marjan winning the tournament. Nice to play though this game with Vigus's notes and now see what was going on.

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Reply #12 - 06/20/12 at 21:00:29
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Hi,

an excerpt of an ebook sample is published:
http://www.everymanchess.com/chess/books/Chess_Developments%3A_The_Pirc

These are the contents:
Chapter One: Austrian Attack with 5...c5
Chapter One: Austrian Attack with 5...0-0
Chapter Three: The Classical Variation
Chapter Four: White plays 4.Be3
Chapter Five: The Byrne Variation
Chapter Six: The Fianchetto Variation


I am happy with the selection of the different variations although I would be interested which lines/setup james Vigus analyzes after 4.Le3.
Anyway it seems that he did a good job.
What is your opinion?
  
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In addition to the variations mentioned above, I hope the Accelerated Classical variations are covered.  We've discussed the variation proposed by Dzindzi before and I think they're still critical and unresolved.
  
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MNb wrote on 04/22/12 at 20:48:59:
PatzerKing wrote on 04/22/12 at 17:54:41:
I would like to ask you what you think in which shape the Austrian Attack is and which setup you would play with Black?

Sorry, but I have to disappoint you. I only play the Pirc as White and invariably begin with 4.Be3. Since I traded 4.f3 for this I never had the chance to play the Austrian Attack in a delayed version.
So I'm only qualified to opine on the Argentinean.


I would play the Austrian Tiger/Svidler style.
Only via the Modern.

  
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I would like to ask you what you think in which shape the Austrian Attack is and which setup you would play with Black?

Sorry, but I have to disappoint you. I only play the Pirc as White and invariably begin with 4.Be3. Since I traded 4.f3 for this I never had the chance to play the Austrian Attack in a delayed version.
So I'm only qualified to opine on the Argentinean.
  

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Hi MNb,

thanks for your very honest and instructive statement. It is also interesting to hear that you contributed the DW book to find the best move for White.
18…Sf8!? looks at least interesting from first point of view, I will have a look at it. I totally agree with you that 4…c6 leads to other problems (move-order-issues, Archbishop Attack,…). This is the reason why I started with the Modern move-order against all the Be3-stuff, which you also mentioned. I also don´t like the Be3,Be2,g2-g4-stuff against 4…c6 because I like to play d6-d5 against it and c7-c6-c5 is a loss of tempo.
One word to the Archbishop Attack which I never faced on the board (because of the Modern move-order):  I opened my repertoire database and saw that I looked at the games “Jerez Perez,A (2388)-Torrecillas Martinez,A (2380)/Barcelona 2009”, “Visser,Y (2445)-Pel,B (2284)/Leeuwarden 2004 with 10…exd4” as a way to handle the variation. Although it is a very dangerous variation for Black, I also had the feeling that White has overextended his position a little bit.
I would like to ask you what you think in which shape the Austrian Attack is and which setup you would play with Black?

Thanks again for your statement and let´s see which contents will be covered in Mr. Vigus´ book.
  
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[quote][Pirc with 4 Be3 [u]a6[/u]] [i]s equally hard if White transposes to the Austrian ...[/quote]
[quote author=5152585E3F0 link=1335001228/6#6 date=1335020119]You mean with 5 f4? What then on 5 ...b5? I can't see many examples (for whatever reason!).[/quote]
Or by 5.h3 Bg7 6.f4.

[quote]Michael wants to play ...a6 against everything ...[/quote][quote author=5152585E3F0 link=1335001228/6#6 date=1335020119]Not at all! -- see my question in the 'd6 repertoire' thread ...
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Well, I'm exaggerating. But you áre quite fond of that ...a6 move (not that there is anything wrong with that fondness) and thus you are willing to allow all kind of transpositions. I don't think all Pirc-players do.
  

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[quote][Pirc with 4 Be3 [u]a6[/u]] [i]s equally hard if White transposes to the Austrian ...[/quote]
You mean with 5 f4? What then on 5 ...b5? I can't see many examples (for whatever reason!).

[quote]Michael wants to play ...a6 against everything ...[/quote]
Not at all! -- see my question in the 'd6 repertoire' thread ...
  
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PatzerKing wrote on 04/21/12 at 09:40:28:
The line "B2" mentioned in the Dangerous Weapon book p. 24 is almost lost after 22.b3! instead of 22.f6.

Black is completely lost after 22.b3! I am to blame for this omission as I have contributed to the original analysis. My task - and I learned quite a lot - was to find White's best moves. Alas I only found 22.b3! after I received the book. IM Vigus no doubt will offer the improvement 18...Nf8, which we analysed too. All I can say here is that my verdict is unclear.

PatzerKing wrote on 04/21/12 at 09:40:28:
It is also not easy to get the Donner Formation working in this variation.

No, it's impossible due to 8.Bh6 Nbd7 9.Bxg7 Kxg7 10.e5! De la Villa Garcia-Gracia Campo, Benaresque 1998.

PatzerKing wrote on 04/21/12 at 09:40:28:
So castling into it seems very dangerous for me

Well, yes, that's kind of the point of castling. There is a reason I score about 80% as White. IM Sarno with no doubt prepares his games very carefully, walking the tightrope, inviting White to join him only to hit back hard ....
Remember that 8.h4 iso 8.Bh6 is equally sharp and dangerous. 8.g4 and 8.Kb1 are inferior. I think IM Vigus is too pessimistic on diagram 26. White can't make progress, has a lame Bishop on f1 while Black gradually builds up an attack.

PatzerKing wrote on 04/21/12 at 09:40:28:
and 4…c6 could be the way to go.

Then White may chose 4.h3 and 5.g4 (The Archbishop Attack) or 4.h3 and 5.f4 (White argues that this is an improved version of the Austrian Attack). Moreover you have committed yourself to ...c6 lines against all kind of other stuff, like the Classical and the 150-Attack.

1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6
Michael Ayton wrote on 04/21/12 at 10:26:18:
4 Be3 a6!? is one obvious suggestion ...

Is equally hard if White transposes to the Austrian while the Ujtelky Defence 1.e4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 d6 4.Be3 a6 5.f4 isn't that easy either. In fact ...Nf6 invites e4-e5, which is thematic anyway. Of course White also can play the Argentinean with 5.h4 eg Nf6 6.f3 or a Pseudo-Argentinean with 5.Qd2 keeping options open.
Not to mention that 4...a6 even more restricts Black's options if White choses something else, like a Classical. You will have to rework your entire repertoire. Michael wants to play ...a6 against everything, so for him it's no big deal.

PatzerKing wrote on 04/21/12 at 10:43:49:
I often start with the Modern and then I choose if I transpose to the Pirc or follow the Modern line.

The best way to defuse the Argentinean Attack then is 1.e4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 d6 4.Be3 c6 eg 5.Qd2 Nd7 6.h4 h5 7.Nh3 b5 8.Ng5 Nb6 9.f3 Rb8 eg Georgiev-Peev, BULch Sofia 1985. The Bishop on g7 is more important for Black's counterplay than the King's Knight.
You could also look at Matsuura-De Resende, Aracatuba 1998, where Black played 7...Bxh3.
Of course there is 6.Bd3 and 6.Nf3 when I suggest e5.

What I'd like to see is a thorough examination of the aggressive 4.Be3 variations. But I can't ask that from a book written from Black's point of view, I guess.
  

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Austrian Attack with 6.Be3: This is covered in Andrew Greet´s book “Beating the unusual chess defenses: 1.e4”. He did a good job and it is not easy to find a good line against it.

Indeed. I am about to win a game with white following his recommendations in my correspondence chess tries.  Wink
Thanks goes to Mr Greet for now!  Cool
  
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[quote author=74777D7B1A0 link=1335001228/2#2 date=1335003978][quote]So I am asking the other Pirc/Modern fellows what you want to see in his new book. [/quote]

4 Be3 a6!? is one obvious suggestion ...[/quote]

That is a good suggestion. I often start with the Modern and then I choose if I transpose to the Pirc or follow the Modern line. 4.Be3 a6!? would perfectly fit this strategy.
  
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[quote]So I am asking the other Pirc/Modern fellows what you want to see in his new book. [/quote]

4 Be3 a6!? is one obvious suggestion ...
  
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Hi,

Everyman chess announced a new book „Chess Developments – The Pirc“ for July ´12 by James Vigus.




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Hi,

Everyman chess announced a new book „Chess Developments – The Pirc“ for July ´12 by James Vigus. I am an addictated Pirc/Modern player and from my point of view Mr. Vigus did a great job with “The Pirc in Black and White”. I use the Pirc/Modern to play for a win with Black and I think it is a very interesting opening complex. So I am very excited about this book.
As Everyman chess says the” Chess Developments series is is a brand new series providing state-of-the-art openings coverage. Chess Developments focuses on the current trends – concentrating on critical lines, theoretical novelties and powerful new ideas.”
So I am asking the other Pirc/Modern fellows what you want to see in his new book. Here is my personal assumption in which shape the lines are from practical point of view (Elo (me) 2200/2300 against Elo 2000-2450) and what I want to see in the book:

- Austrian Attack: I was never addictated to all 5…c5 6.Bb5+ lines. I always consider them as drawish and if I want to play for a win I play: 1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Bd3 Na6 7. O-O c5 8. d5 Bg4 9. Bc4 Nc7 10. h3 Bxf3 11. Qxf3 a6 12. a4 b6 13. Qd3 Qc8!? At least it is an interesting line. So I hope for less Bb5+ stuuf and more other ways to meet the Austrian Attack.

- Austrian Attack with 6.Be3: This is covered in Andrew Greet´s book “Beating the unusual chess defenses: 1.e4”. He did a good job and it is not easy to find a good line against it.

- 4.Le3: It is very tough to play against the Argentinian Attack on the board especially the line with 8.Bh6 and then h2-h4 is difficult to meet. The line "B2" mentioned in the Dangerous Weapon book p. 24 is almost lost after 22.b3! instead of 22.f6. It is also not easy to get the Donner Formation working in this variation. So castling into it seems very dangerous for me and 4…c6 could be the way to go.

- 150-attack/4.Bg5: Not easy to play for a win with Black but Black seems to manage getting enough counterplay.

- Classical variation/Fianchetto variation: At the moment I don´t see a critical variation for Black.


So, I am very happy that there will be a new book about the Pirc and good luck to Mr. Vigus. I am sure he will do a great job as before.



  
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