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Re: I propose a new rule.
Reply #18 - 05/13/12 at 21:12:17
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 05/13/12 at 20:40:04:
I'd like to propose a new rule!
It has been suggested to me privately that I ban unruly members, but I'm not too keen on this idea, I can however give them 'Troll' status for a short period of time. Shocked
So my suggested new rule is that any member who directly insults another will be 'Trolled' for a week. of course, if the victim then insults him back he will also be 'trolled' .. a bit like both getting red cards in a game of football.
Anyone against this? Undecided


You would have to define what an insult is and is not, and define it well.
  

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Re: I propose a new rule.
Reply #17 - 05/13/12 at 20:50:33
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I thought red cards mean one cannot play the next fixture. If you give them such a status, then they can still post, so it would be a yellow card? But what to do when a moderator insults a poster unprovoked?
  

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Re: I propose a new rule.
Reply #16 - 05/13/12 at 20:40:04
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I'd like to propose a new rule!
It has been suggested to me privately that I ban unruly members, but I'm not too keen on this idea, I can however give them 'Troll' status for a short period of time. Shocked
So my suggested new rule is that any member who directly insults another will be 'Trolled' for a week. of course, if the victim then insults him back he will also be 'trolled' .. a bit like both getting red cards in a game of football.
Anyone against this? Undecided
  
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Re: I propose a new rule.
Reply #15 - 05/13/12 at 18:52:32
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The topic of this thread was Markovich's proposal for a new rule.

The discussion about moderation has been moved to the General Chess section.

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Reply #14 - 05/13/12 at 18:48:25
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Re: I propose a new rule.
Reply #13 - 05/12/12 at 13:13:20
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A good story writer needs the "axe" as a tool - which means you only tell what is really necessary for the content.
  
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Reply #12 - 05/12/12 at 12:45:02
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Agree with Markovich.
Unpleasant, unsightly long quotes. No thank you. Much of it idle drivel anyhow.

Presume TN  joking, but with chess players 'tis never clear. There is joy in brevity. Read some haiku. Read Orwell. Max 40 words? Maybe.

  
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Reply #11 - 05/12/12 at 09:35:04
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I propose a new rule: All posts must contain at least 40 words (excluding those in quote tags).

Stops the 'one sentence in reply to five paragraphs' case given by Markovich, and also reduces author laziness. But the number of posts per day could decrease sharply.
  

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Reply #10 - 05/12/12 at 03:10:36
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So sorry. Hyperbole.

But read some threads, and you will see that a nontrivial minority of posts consist of a long quotation and not much else.

Small issue, fine. But it is an issue. "Rule" is a poor term, really. Call it an expectation.
  

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Re: I propose a new rule.
Reply #9 - 05/12/12 at 02:37:58
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Markovich wrote on 05/11/12 at 20:06:56:
New rule: Do not quote a post if your reply is not going to be at least as long as the text you quote. I am pretty tired of people quoting five-paragraph posts just to add a sentence or two in reply. Offending posts will be subject to deletion.


But here, Markovich is saying that he was just quoting a new rule of thumb, not an inflexible policy.

The first quote, coming from a thread in the general chat section, certainly does not read like a rule of thumb.  It suggests the rule is already in place.
  
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Re: I propose a new rule.
Reply #8 - 05/12/12 at 02:34:28
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Why do we need a rule such as this? 

This is really a small issue. Yes, people should learn to quote economically from others. But where does this stop?  Will we start to censor overly wordy texts?  Or texts that use different colors?

Rather than make a rule prohibiting over-long quotations, the moderators could send a message to people who routinely make these lazy posts asking them to clean up their posts.

There are only a few people who post here regularly as it is. We don't need to clutter the site with rules such as this.
  
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Reply #7 - 05/11/12 at 23:16:00
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Well at least we need to estanlish a principle. There is a fair amount of excessive quotation going on.
  

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Re: I propose a new rule.
Reply #6 - 05/11/12 at 22:19:07
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I agree that both overly long quotes and nested ones are annoying. I prefer editing the quote to remove the unessential first to make it snappier and more relevant, I also ignore posts with long quotes! Smiley
If they are deleted I wouldn't mind myself, although I'm sure it would annoy the authors!
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What about some gentle warnings to offenders first?
  
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Re: I propose a new rule.
Reply #5 - 05/11/12 at 21:43:50
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[quote] I plan summarily to delete any future offending posts[/quote]

Doesn't sound all that flexible... Judging from how often people post in the wrong section (btw, there's a Benko post in d-pawn specials that belongs in daring defences), we could assume that many will continue to quote entire conversations just to add a sentence or two. I think all of us have done that at least once over the years.

So, summarily deletion is overkill imo - and could easily turn into censorship and long debates on why something was deleted while something else wasn't.

But the suggested new rule in itself sounds like a good idea. Though it's easier to achieve thru group pressure and good role models than with Judge Dredd as moderator. :)
  
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Re: I propose a new rule.
Reply #4 - 05/11/12 at 21:18:39
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Really I was just proposing a rule of thumb, not an inflexible policy.
  

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