Actually brabo, I must apologize, I don't know your identity (or perhaps have forgotten it), nor would I know how to discover it other than to ask you.

If you want credit, you don't have to publish in NIC, but I would recommend, yes, that you publish in some sort of formal publication where your name appears on the material that you've submitted.

I am tired of discussing this.  Go get a lawyer, or else, please just stop posting here about it.  As many others have pointed out, this is not really a ChessPub matter.  I have posted only as a courtesy to you, but I shall not post again about this exceedingly wearisome subject.

However:

The copyright of a work on mathematical science cannot give to the author an exclusive right to the methods of operation which he propounds, or to the diagrams which he employs to explain them, so as to prevent an engineer from using them whenever occasion requires. The very object of publishing a book on science or the useful arts is to communicate to the world the useful knowledge which it contains. But this object would be frustrated if the knowledge could not be used without incurring the guilt of piracy of the book. And where the art it teaches cannot be used without employing the methods and diagrams used to illustrate the book, or such as are similar to them, such methods and diagrams are to be considered as necessary incidents to the art, and given therewith to the public; not given for the purpose of publication in other works explanatory of the art, but for the purpose of practical application.

U.S. Supreme Court, Baker vs. Selden, 101 U.S. 99 (1879)

It seems quite plausible to me that chess variations are methods and thus comprehended by this.

For most countries it is 70 years from the death of the author. I think the 50 years are for photos, from moment of publication. - But it should be quite clear that opening names are not protected by copyright laws. I am not a lawyer, but I've never thought of this as a copyright issue. This falls - in my opinion - more into another area, what brabo had called "respect for other authors".

It is default at 50 years after the author's death I think, but can potentially be longer if the legislation in the country is specifying it.

Source - Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and...

brabo wrote on 05/25/12 at 07:20:43:

Sorry, my mistake. But Belgium was one of the original signers of the Berne Convention, so I don't see what's the problem.

In the other thread I had written:

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Full disclosure: When I published Die Nordwalder Variante I wasn't aware that 1.e4 e5 2.f4 Qf6 had already been analyzed by Jaenisch in 1843. - My Vulture had been played earlier in a slightly different version by Esteban Canal. - "My" version of a From's Gambit had older roots (circa 1914). So when I made my first steps in chess publishing, as a naive 18-year-old, I fear that some people were rotating in their graves. 

Markovich wrote on 05/25/12 at 02:36:37:

Markovich, you belong to an older generation which is still used to the copyright laws as they were before the United States signed the 1886 Berne Convention. The Copyright law of your country used to be very different to the law in Europe, but there have been some changes in 1988 (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_States ):

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Brabo lives in the Netherlands, so he can ignore the © stuff. Also in Australia, as far as I know, the Berne Convention is respected since 1968.

brabo wrote on 05/24/12 at 05:17:12:


Really? I don't. Why should someone else bother to lift his little finger for your sake if can't see fit to post over your own name? If you seriously wanted credit, you should have supplied your name. In fact, I suggest you should have written to the NIC forum page. That's what I do when I have what I consider to be a bright idea.  I'm talking credit, not copyright.

Frankly I think it's bizarre to think that after you post anonymously in a higjly public forum, you have some sort of ownership claim.

I used to post my poetry on the compuserve peotry forum, but I never forgot to put my own name on it and a copyright notice as well.

Jupp53 wrote on 05/24/12 at 10:22:24:

The concept of "Creative Common License" was developed for people who are willing to give free access to some of their work, without giving up all of the rights or let others profit commercially from their own non-profit work. But that's a very special situation, and a small circle of people, e.g. musicians who want to get a foot into the real market. 

GMTonyKosten wrote on 05/24/12 at 10:21:36:

In 1983 I commented a game for a bulletin. My comments were used in a German chess magazine, credit given, but the text edited which I hated. I wrote an angry letter to the editor and asked for payment. He replied that the organizer sent him the bulletin, thus it were okay to use the comments. We kept a friendly relationship, but he never again used my work without asking. (It was, of course, a very minor case.)

brabo wrote on 05/24/12 at 10:39:03:

The chess world was aware of the problem of selling last-round games since, ... Ware - Grundy, New York 1880.