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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #18 - 06/27/12 at 23:50:55
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Hadron wrote on 06/27/12 at 21:33:32:
I no longer have use for this thread and I have written to the esteemed moderator to lock it and or delete it.

I have received no such pm but will lock the thread in accordance with your wishes.
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #17 - 06/27/12 at 22:27:49
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My name is not Moss.  I am known here as Markovich.  What I said was meant to be funny; it wasn't particularly about you, only about people afflicted by the dread disease I mentioned.  It's not my fault that you exhibit some of the symptoms.

I do expect, however, to report some of my findings, pertinent to Gambit Psychosis, in an upcoming edition of the New England Journal of Medicine.
  
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #16 - 06/27/12 at 21:33:32
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Personally I don't know why it is has become so difficult to simply ask for any old analysis and games without people claiming that I am this, that or the other thing....Sure I admit I don't like boring chess but it is these people drawing the clearly false distinction that because I don't like boring chess, I am some sort of gambit addict....ah...no....This premise assumes that that all non-boring games are only played with gambits and that is clearly not the case, case in point, the Najdorf.
So MnB, [Edited] and his attempts at playing Sigmund Freud are about as biased and flawed as your attempts to support him.....
I am not interested in getting into philosphical debates any more, it is about as boring as the London Opening but I really did not expect to recieve such unsolicited vitriol and banal replies for such a simple question especially from so called long time members of this site so since the one sensible post I did recieve has provided information I no longer have use for this thread and I have written to the esteemed moderator to lock it and or delete it.
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I'm reminded again of something Short wrote recently, approximately "The biggest fallacy in chess is the quasi-religious belief in the primacy of the opening."
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #15 - 06/27/12 at 14:10:12
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Yet another instance of the so-called Gambo Variations. Zappa misspelled it, being a chess illiterate.
  
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #14 - 06/27/12 at 13:58:13
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Hadron wrote on 06/27/12 at 11:16:52:
there is a slight flaw in your rational,

Actually this is a flaw in the rational of gambit addicts, not in Markovich'.
  
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #13 - 06/27/12 at 11:16:52
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Markovich wrote on 06/27/12 at 02:30:42:
A key symptom of Gambit Psychosis is the belief that chess played other than in gambit fashion is boring.

Well Sigmund Freud, thank you for your expert diagnosis but as I see it, besides not even saying this or even infering (so I really don't know where you got it from), there is a slight flaw in your rational, not all sharp openings are gambits. A couple that spring to mind are the Kere’s attack and the Najdorf variation, both from the Sicilian Defence and both which I have tried during my playing life time.
As for the rest of your self indulgent hubris driven diatribe, not interested in feeding trolls.

barnaby wrote on 06/27/12 at 03:41:41:
As opposed to the 'Esserman strategy' which is to beat people rated 2700 plus with their gambit ideas and then publish a book based upon their efforts, in which he states he hopes the gambit not being accepted becomes the main line as this itself is strong evidence of the gambit's viability.

Ooooook…..

Stefan Buecker wrote on 06/26/12 at 10:09:48:

Hadron wrote on 06/26/12 at 01:03:30:
As for using Google, I have tried this and have find out a number of things about Fyfe the man ( In that he was quite a strong player for his time) but nothing about his idea.

Try Google Books.

This is the only sensible suggestion I have received that has actually born fruit, I have managed to find some analysis in Chess Openings, Ancient and Modern by Freeborough. So again I thank you for your assistance.

HTH
  
I'm reminded again of something Short wrote recently, approximately "The biggest fallacy in chess is the quasi-religious belief in the primacy of the opening."
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Reply #12 - 06/27/12 at 11:06:36
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Sorry Hadron, only three hits on http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ for "Fyfe Gambit", so I guess it isn't worth the GBP 6.95 to get these pages.
  
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #11 - 06/27/12 at 03:41:41
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As opposed to the 'Esserman strategy' which is to beat people rated 2700 plus with their gambit ideas and then publish a book based upon their efforts, in which he states he hopes the gambit not being accepted becomes the main line as this itself is strong evidence of the gambit's viability.

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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #10 - 06/27/12 at 02:30:42
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A key symptom of Gambit Psychosis is the belief that chess played other than in gambit fashion is boring. The disease first manifests itself as a mild reluctance to tackle new sorts of positions; proceeds through a period of rationalization during which an "ideology" of gambit play is constructed; reaches an advaced state marked clock-slamming, exclusive concentration on speed chess, muttering in corners, and contempt for players not similarly afflicted; and terminates in utter madness relieved only occasionally by periods of partial lucidity, typically spent posting confrontational messages in internet chess fora.
  
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #9 - 06/26/12 at 10:09:48
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Hadron wrote on 06/26/12 at 01:03:30:
The British Library is on the other side of the planet from where I reside and while I am interested in the historical aspect of Fyfe's idea, I am not that interested.

So you are lazy.  Grin

Maybe there is a town in your area, with a public bus system or something? Large towns often have public libraries. Some of those have online access to the British Library, if they can afford their "newspaper packages" (they are not cheap).

Hadron wrote on 06/26/12 at 01:03:30:
As for using Google, I have tried this and have find out a number of things about Fyfe the man ( In that he was quite a strong player for his time) but nothing about his idea.

Try Google Books.
  
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #8 - 06/26/12 at 01:43:54
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PANFR wrote on 06/25/12 at 23:10:43:
Look man, I am not five years old, but I do have trouble understanding what "sporofic chess" is. Do you mean soporific?
Anyway- my feeling is that anyone insterested in such "gambits" or "suckrifices" or call-it-as-you-like-it, is not for chess in general- not just "sporofic chess".


**sigh** There is one in every crowd...Did I not suggest that taking your time to tell me or in your case, inferring it directly that Fyfe's idea was crap was a waste of time and yet....you did it anyway.

Do you have anything sensible to say?....Anyone?
HTH
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Oh and one last thing before you try and bolster your point with trying to correct someone else’s spelling, check your own…“insterested”…really??... Shocked
  
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #7 - 06/26/12 at 01:03:30
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 06/25/12 at 23:42:55:
BleepBleep wrote on 06/25/12 at 16:25:48:
Hadron, I think you need to get out more.

He means you should visit the British Library. Or use Google.

Maestro, thank you for your input. The British Library is on the other side of the planet from where I reside and while I am interested in the historical aspect of Fyfe's idea, I am not that interested. As for using Google, I have tried this and have find out a number of things about Fyfe the man ( In that he was quite a strong player for his time) but nothing about his idea. But never the less, thank you for your time.
HTH
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #6 - 06/25/12 at 23:42:55
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BleepBleep wrote on 06/25/12 at 16:25:48:
Hadron, I think you need to get out more.

He means you should visit the British Library. Or use Google.
  
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #5 - 06/25/12 at 23:10:43
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Look man, I am not five years old, but I do have trouble understanding what "sporofic chess" is. Do you mean soporific?
Anyway- my feeling is that anyone insterested in such "gambits" or "suckrifices" or call-it-as-you-like-it, is not for chess in general- not just "sporofic chess".
  
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Re: Fyfe Gambit (The Reboot)
Reply #4 - 06/25/12 at 22:39:18
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PANFR wrote on 06/25/12 at 19:13:59:
I believe that the Bin Laden gambit (1.e4 d5 2.Nh3) is a better choice.

What!?...are you like 5 years old (See above)
  
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