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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #249 - 09/20/17 at 22:15:50
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Fyfe variations index (hopefully all of them)
1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d4
  • 3...d5 4.Nf3 exd4 5.exd5 dxc3 {/206 }
  • 3...Bc5 4.Bb5 d6 5.Bxc6+ bxc6 {/206 }
  • 3...exd4 {/2 /80 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Bc4 dxc3 5.Qd5 Be7 {/206 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nd5 {/122 /134 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nd5 Nf6 5.Bf4 d6 {/0 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nd5 Nf6 5.Bf4 Nxd5 {/0 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nd5 Bc5 5.Qh5 Bb4+ {/232 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nd5 Bc5 5.a3 Nf6 {/232 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nd5 Bc5 5.a3 Nge7 {/232 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nd5 Bc5 5.a3 a5 {/232 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nd5 Bc5 5.Nf3 Nge7 {/227 {/232 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nd5 Bc5 5.Nf3 Nf6 {/227 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nb5 {/15 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nb5 Nf6 {/0 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nb5 Bb4+ {/0 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nb5 Bb4+ }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nb5 Bb4+ 5.c3 {/134 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nb5 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 Bc5 {/134 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nb5 Bc5 5.Bf4 d6 {/0 }
  • 3...exd4 4.Nb5 Bc5 5.Nf3 Nf6 {/122 /131 /134 }
  • 3...Nxd4 {/61 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 Nc6 {/0 /9 /20 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 {/7 /16 /17 /78 /88 /98 /100 /101 /102 /103 /110 /130 /189 /235 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 5.Nxd5 {/105 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 5.Be3 {/105 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 5.Bd3 {/105 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 5.fxe5 {/105 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 5.fxe5 dxe4 {/30 /199 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 5.exd5 Bg4 {/104 /107 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 5.exd5 Bc5 {/24 /30 /32 /80 /82 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 5.exd5 Qe7 {/40 /42 /43 /47 /48 /49 /54 /55 /56 /57 /58 /59 /60 /62 /64 /65 /66 /67 /68 /69 /70 /71 /72 /73 /74 /75 /76 /79 /80 /82 /83 /84 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 5.exd5 Qh4+ {/30 /43 /52 /55 /81 /83 /95 /96 /98 /99 /108 /139 /140 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d5 5.exd5 Bf5 {/24 /25 /26 /27 /28 /29 /30 /33 /34 /35 /36 /37 /38 /39 /41 /43 /55 /80 /84 /86 /89 /90 /92 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 Bd6 {/80 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 Bc5 5.fxe5 d6 {/199 /205 /219 /220 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 Bc5 5.fxe5 c6 {/199 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 c6 5.fxe5 Bc5 {/199 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d6 {/99 /100 /102 /105 /107 /110 /130 /132 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Be3 {/112 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Be3 Nc6 {/97 /199 /239 /240 /241 /242 /243 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Nf3 Nc6 {/97 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Nf3 Bg4 {/97 /112 /116 /117 /118 /119 /123 /124 /125 /126 /127 /128 /129 /133 /199 /233 /235 /236 /237 /239 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 Bb4 {/56 /80 /88 /91 /118 /189 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 Bb4 5.Nf3 Nc6 {/0 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 Bb4 5.Nf3 Nxf3+ {/0 /15 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.f4 Bb4 5.Nf3 Bxc3+ {/0 /3 /24 /61 /77 /93 /128 /129 /130 /136 /137 /141 /162 /199 /214 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.Nf3 {/62 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.Nf3 Nxf3+ {/9 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.Nf3 Nxf3+ 5.Qxf3 Nf6 {/1 /2 /3 /5 /8 /16 /24 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.Nf3 Nxf3+ 5.Qxf3 c6 {/6 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.Nf3 Nxf3+ 5.Qxf3 d6 {/11 /24 /44 /50 /51 /53 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.Nf3 Nxf3+ 5.Qxf3 Bb4 {/44 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.Nf3 Nc6 {/4 /17 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.Bg5 Be7 {/4 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.Bc4 Be7 {/9 }
  • 3...Nxd4 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.Bc4 h6 {/11 /14 /24 }


Other variations index (maybe not all of them)
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 d5 {/79 /113 /114 /115 /134 /146 /147 /148 /157 /161 /165 /166 /167 /168 /169 /171 /172 /173 /174 /177 /178 /179 /180 /181 /182 /183 /185 /186 /192 }
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.g3 b5 {/79 }
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.d4 {/149 /150 /151 /154 /156 /159 /164 }
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 Bc5 4.d4 {/150 /154 }
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 d5 {/142 /143 }
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.g3 d5 5.exd5 Nd4 {/146 }
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 d5 {/144 /145 }
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Qg4 {/164 }
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.d4 {/227 /232 }
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.O-O Nf6 5.d4 {/132 /162 /227 /232 }
  • 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 g6 4.b4 {/161 }
  • 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 {/192 }
  • 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Bg5 Ne4 4.Bf4 e5 {/194 /196 }


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The Fyfe Gambit may be incorrect or not, I don't know. There are the Nimzowitsches, who think that certain moves are not worth debating, and the Alapins, who need concrete analysis. True: Nimzowitsch, with his limited focus, was stronger over the board.
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Meta-theory isn't the real thing - "Die Variante triumphiert" (The variation triumphs), as Alapin put it. But it can help to consider general rules and concepts.
--Stefan Buecker /192


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To me (and hopefully many others here), chess theory is the study of the games that are played and how they evolve as response to earlier games - and since no one plays the Fyfe anymore it's not theory, it's history. Simple as that.
--TalJechin /226

  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #248 - 12/19/15 at 20:18:32
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It's great to see you back and posting again Stefan!

Thanks for sharing the poem!
  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #247 - 12/19/15 at 17:37:09
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TalJechin wrote on 12/19/15 at 11:48:17:
OK, since it's soon Christmas I'll remove the poll for you! Smiley

Surprised that this thread has more than 40 000 views, so obviously there is more interest in the topic than I thought three years ago...

Thanks. Suddenly the thread is looking much better. Now if Tony could bring back the old, nice diagrams...  Smiley

Since you mention Christmas, I'll avoid posting new analysis (for now) and instead add a little poem. - Source: The Chessplayer's Chronicle and Journal of Indoor and Outdoor Amusements, 20th June 1883.

  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #246 - 12/19/15 at 11:48:17
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 12/19/15 at 08:46:46:
Alan McGowan has published information on Peter Fyfe, including a photo of the maestro.

The poll has ruined this thread for me, but this info seems worth sharing.


OK, since it's soon Christmas I'll remove the poll for you! Smiley

Surprised that this thread has more than 40 000 views, so obviously there is more interest in the topic than I thought three years ago...
  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #245 - 12/19/15 at 08:46:46
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Alan McGowan has published information on Peter Fyfe, including a photo of the maestro.

The poll has ruined this thread for me, but this info seems worth sharing.
  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #244 - 12/05/12 at 03:04:28
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Wind wrote on 11/07/12 at 15:58:31:
Hello Stefan, thank you for your positive and amicable reaction. I agree with you that [instead of the premature advance 6.f5?] white should play 6.Nf3!. Then it is far from obvious how black should deal with white's initiative.

1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d4 Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Be3 Nc6 6.Nf3

(A) 6... Nf6 7.f5! Recommended by Stefan Buecker. Here the advance is entirely appropriate. White gains space on the kingside, while restricting black's play. Note that black can not take advantage with 7... g6, since white plays 8.Bc4 targetting f7. 7... Be7 8.h3 (perhaps other moves can be considered). Here I examined two responses for black:

(A1) 8... O-O 9.a3 (preventing ... d5, exd5, Nb4; and preparing Bc4, so that Na5 is met by Ba2) 9... Nh5!? (after other moves white plays either g4 or Bc4 with good compensation) 10.g4 (10.Bf2 may also be okay) 10... Ng3 11.Rg1 Nxf1 12.Rxf1 with fine compensation.

(A2) 8... d5!? This attempt to refute white's play leads to messy complications. 9.exd5 Nb4 10.Bb5+ Bd7 11.Bxd7 (11.Bc4?! favours black; 11.Qe2!?) 11... Qxd7 12.O-O e4 13.Ne5 Qd6 14.Nb5 Qxe5 15.Bf4 with enormous complications. According to Houdini the correct result is a draw (0.00).

(B) 6... exf4 7.Bxf4 Nf6 (or 7... Nge7 8.Qd2 Ng6 9.Bg3 Be7 10.O-O-O O-O with mutual chances) 8.Qe2! This is the key move: white is going to castle queenside. This will offer him plenty of middle-game chances. 8... Be7 9.O-O-O O-O 10.h3 Be6 11.Kb1 Re8 12.g4 a6 13.Bg2. Although white is a pawn down, the position is certainly of interest and offers chances to both sides. At least in OTB games this line may well be playable for white.   



hello Mr Wind.
Have you seen my analysis I posted here ?
  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #243 - 11/09/12 at 21:44:53
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Thank you very much, Maurits. It is encouraging that you agree that 6...Nf6 7.f5! offers sufficient chances. After 7...Be7 8.h3 I had considered 8...d5 only superficially. Overall I like White's chances after 7.f5, at least from a practical point of view: the advance of pawns gives White a lot of space, and Black has to generate counterplay, cannot just wait. 

So maybe 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d4 Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Be3 Nc6 6.Nf3 exf4(!) 7.Bxf4 is indeed the critical line.

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(a) If 7...Nf6, 8.Qe2! (Maurits Wind) is probably the most accurate reply. Putting a bishop to c4 makes no sense, as the attacks on this piece (on c4 or b3) will only accelerate Black's play on the queenside. Wind's analysis 8... Be7 9.0-0-0 0-0 10.h3 Be6 11.Kb1 Re8 12.g4 a6 13.Bg2 looks fine. White has a space advantage and free piece play for the pawn. 

(b) 7... Nge7 8.Qd2 (or 8.Qe2 Ng6 9.Bg3 Be7 10.0-0-0 Bf6!) 8...Ng6 9.Be3 (my first idea was 9.Bg3 Be7 10.0-0-0, but Black plays 10...Bf6! followed by Be5 and wins a tempo, because White doesn't really want to exchange on e5) 9...Be7 10.0-0-0 0-0 11.Nd5, with active play for the pawn, e.g. 11...Bf6?! 12.Be2 Re8 13.Rhf1! and pawn e4 is indirectly protected.

Whether 5.Be3 is really better than our former main line 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d4 Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Nf3!? Bg4 6.Be2 Nxe2 7.Qxe2 c6 8.h3 Bxf3(!) Markovich 9.Qxf3 Nf6, is not easy to assess. For example, White could continue 10.Bd2 (to discourage Qa5) 10...Be7 11.0-0-0 Qc7 12.Kb1 0-0-0 13.Be3 Kb8 14.Rd2 Nd7 15.Rhd1 Qa5 (15...exf4 16.Bxf4 Nb6 17.b3 Nc8 18.Na4) 16.f5 Nb6 17.Rd3, and it is hard to see how Black can ever "free" his passive Be7.

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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #242 - 11/07/12 at 15:58:31
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Hello Stefan, thank you for your positive and amicable reaction. I agree with you that [instead of the premature advance 6.f5?] white should play 6.Nf3!. Then it is far from obvious how black should deal with white's initiative.

1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d4 Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Be3 Nc6 6.Nf3

(A) 6... Nf6 7.f5! Recommended by Stefan Buecker. Here the advance is entirely appropriate. White gains space on the kingside, while restricting black's play. Note that black can not take advantage with 7... g6, since white plays 8.Bc4 targetting f7. 7... Be7 8.h3 (perhaps other moves can be considered). Here I examined two responses for black:

(A1) 8... O-O 9.a3 (preventing ... d5, exd5, Nb4; and preparing Bc4, so that Na5 is met by Ba2) 9... Nh5!? (after other moves white plays either g4 or Bc4 with good compensation) 10.g4 (10.Bf2 may also be okay) 10... Ng3 11.Rg1 Nxf1 12.Rxf1 with fine compensation.

(A2) 8... d5!? This attempt to refute white's play leads to messy complications. 9.exd5 Nb4 10.Bb5+ Bd7 11.Bxd7 (11.Bc4?! favours black; 11.Qe2!?) 11... Qxd7 12.O-O e4 13.Ne5 Qd6 14.Nb5 Qxe5 15.Bf4 with enormous complications. According to Houdini the correct result is a draw (0.00).

(B) 6... exf4 7.Bxf4 Nf6 (or 7... Nge7 8.Qd2 Ng6 9.Bg3 Be7 10.O-O-O O-O with mutual chances) 8.Qe2! This is the key move: white is going to castle queenside. This will offer him plenty of middle-game chances. 8... Be7 9.O-O-O O-O 10.h3 Be6 11.Kb1 Re8 12.g4 a6 13.Bg2. Although white is a pawn down, the position is certainly of interest and offers chances to both sides. At least in OTB games this line may well be playable for white.   
  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #241 - 11/03/12 at 01:10:14
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Thanks Maurits, for refuting my analysis so convincingly!  Shocked

I have to admit that Maurits Wind is right: after 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d4 Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Be3 Nc6 6.f5 g6 7.g4, my assessment "looks fine for White" was far too optimistic. 

Wind wrote on 10/25/12 at 16:18:05:
The obvious reaction is 7... h5!, immediately attacking white's imposing -yet still vulnerable- kingside pawns, before white has had time to support the structure. After 8.fxg6 (what else?) 8... fxg6 white has two possibilities.

(A) 8.g5 Closing the position, and attempting to keep Bf8 out off play for a long time. 8... Nge7 10.Bc4 Bg7. Black is a healthy pawn up and doing fine. After a continuation like 11.a3, black frees himself with 11... Bg4, followed by Qd7, O-O-O, Be6 etc. On the other hand 11.Qd3 is well met by 11... Na5!, followed by the exchange of knight for bishop. [...]

Maybe 10.Bg2 Be6 11.Qd2 Qd7 12.h3, but it is quite clear that Black's king will be safe on g8, and that the long-term chances are favouring Black.

I had suggested 6.f5 in order to avoid 6.Nf3 exf4 (6...Nf6 7.f5!), but maybe 6.Nf3 exf4 7.Bxf4 is still worth a look, as a last attempt to rescue the Fyfe. According to Rybka, it is -0.20, but even when Black has a knight safely established on e5, there remains a lot of white piece play (for example h2-h4-h5).
  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #240 - 10/25/12 at 16:18:05
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Hello chess friends, I am a new member at this splendid forum. I am a great fan of the creative and original theoretician FM Stefan Buecker and I am eagerly awaiting the publication of Kaissiber issue 38 !

In the everlasting Fyfe gambit, Stefan Buecker's latest proposal is: 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d4 Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Be3 Nc6 6.f5 g6 7.g4 with the assessment "looks fine for white".

The obvious reaction is 7... h5!, immediately attacking white's imposing -yet still vulnerable- kingside pawns, before white has had time to support the structure. After 8.fxg6 (what else?) 8... fxg6 white has two possibilities.

(A) 8.g5 Closing the position, and attempting to keep Bf8 out off play for a long time. 8... Nge7 10.Bc4 Bg7. Black is a healthy pawn up and doing fine. After a continuation like 11.a3, black frees himself with 11... Bg4, followed by Qd7, O-O-O, Be6 etc. On the other hand 11.Qd3 is well met by 11... Na5!, followed by the exchange of knight for bishop.

(B) 8.gxh5!? Further opening the position, in order to create fighting chances. Though in fact it is black who appears to benefit more. Here are a few ideas. (i) A simple and good respons is 8... Qh4+ 9.Bf2 Qxh5. (ii) Sharp and interesting is 8... Nf6!? 10.hxg6 Ng4! and black has otained the initiative. (iii) Probably best is 8... Bh6(!) 9.Bf2 In this position black has several interesting and appealing options: 9... Be6, 9... g5, 9... Nf6 and 9... Nd4!?. It seems to me that each of these choices yields black the initiative and a good game.

I look forward to all your reactions!
  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #239 - 10/16/12 at 12:10:40
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Markovich wrote on 10/16/12 at 01:35:00:
Considering the history of this thread, I can't understand why no one wants to take up his cudgel on this latest subject. Ah well.

Apologies for my late reply. I checked your and SWJediknight's analyses, without much success. So I have to admit that Bg4xf3 is much stronger than the retreat Bd7. There are also additional options like Nf6-d7 (as square d7 isn't occupied), intending exf4 and Ne5. But Qa5 is just as good, or better. These positions hardly offer White enough compensation. - It was important that in the other position, with Bd7, Black had to castle before he was able to achieve the intended Nf6-e8-c7. Here, without Bd7, the plan Nf6-d7, followed by an eventual f6, Nb6 and d6-d5, is much easier to execute for Black.

So after 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d4 Nxd4 4.f4 d6, the only remaining continuation seems to be 5.Be3! Nc6 6.f5!?. At first I thought that 6...g6 would be a problem, but 7.g4 looks fine for White.
  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #238 - 10/16/12 at 01:35:00
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Considering the history of this thread, I can't understand why no one wants to take up his cudgel on this latest subject. Ah well.
  

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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #237 - 10/05/12 at 15:55:42
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I don't have the time right now to look deeply, but after 12.fxe5 in your last line, I'm unimpressed by White's alleged kingside play after 12...dxe5 13.Qg3 0-0 14.Bh6.  Necessary is 14...Ne8. after which, what is White doing? (Edit: I looked at 15.Rd7 Bb4 16.Bd2 Nf6, intending 17.Bh6 g6.)

White could also try 13.Qf5, but I don't think that works very well.

I agree that the idea of taking on e5 with the queen looks interesting, but I don't think Black is committed to it after ...Qa5.
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #236 - 10/05/12 at 09:55:35
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Onto 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d4 Nxd4 4.f4 d6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Be2 Nxe2 7.Qxe2 c6 8.h3 Bxf3 9.Qxf3 Nf6 (this suggestion of Markovich looks logical to me).

10.Be3 Qa5 11.0-0-0 Be7 12.fxe5 (12.Qg3?! Nh5) 12...Qxe5 (one of the points of 10...Qa5; instead 12...dxe5 13.Qg3 (13.g4!?) 13...0-0 14.Bh6 gives White promising play on the kingside) 13.Bd4 Qg5+ 14.Kb1 0-0.

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Actually I would be quite happy to take White in this position.

Instead Black (after 9...Nf6 10.Be3) could consider 10...exf4 11.Bxf4 Be7 12.0-0-0 Qc7 which seems rather more solid as Black retains the option of castling queenside:
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However White can also recapture with the queen in order to keep the e3-bishop pointing at a7 and discouraging ...0-0-0: 11.Qxf4!?, although 11...Be7 12.0-0-0 Qa5, intending ...Qe5, again looks pretty solid, e.g. 13.Kb1 Qe5 14.Qf2 0-0.  White probably falls just short of full compensation.

Regarding some of Stefan's earlier comments, even if (as I suspect) the Fyfe Gambit is slightly better for Black with best play, the fact that such a line can be playable below master level highlights how rich in possibilities chess really is.  I agree, btw, that in the 3...exd4 lines I gave, the continuation (4.Nd5 Bc5 5.Nf3 (5.a3!?, indeed, is better than it looks) Nge7 6.Bc4 Nxd5 7.exd5 Qe7+) 8.Be2 looks good enough for equality, although it's not the kind of position that I'd want to get out of the opening.
  
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Re: C25: The Everlasting Fyfe Gambit
Reply #235 - 10/05/12 at 02:22:38
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Notwithstanding my interest in 4...d5, I'd like to come back to 4...d6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Be2 Nxe2 7.Qxe2 c6. Black's conservative play makes a lot of sense to me. I'm not very impressed by the idea of ...Bxf3 followed by ...Nc6, which just doesn't seem like chess to me. Now around about post #112, 8.h3 Be6 was considered. But, Black being a pawn up, why not bring off another set of pieces?  8...Bxf3 9.Qxf3 Be7 or 9...Nf6 and I will be very interested to see how White finds his compensation. I would think that Black's queen will most likely go to a5.

P.S. It's already very difficult to look back and find Fyfe Gambit ideas in this thread, which seems to have become a sort of salon for discursions into even more trivial topics than this one. May I request that we henceforth post on topic here? Someone could indeed do everyone else a favor by moving the non-Fyfe Gambit material elsewhere. Or just deleting it.
  

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