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Re: learning the moderne philidor
Reply #3 - 07/22/12 at 09:19:53
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[quote author=525042525442350 link=1342907811/2#2 date=1342946411]imho the best book about Philidor is Seel´s book:
The Philidor - A Secret Weapon.[/quote]

I liked that one too, but it's about the Antoshin variation - i.e. an early e5xd4. Personally, I'm more comfortable in the sharper Antoshin than the solid Hanham, but that's a matter of taste I guess.

If you're new to the Philidor, I'd go for Barsky's book as the chess star format is much easier to digest. And if you get hooked on the Hanham Philidor, then Seel's book could be a good follow up to add some variety. Bauer covers both the Hanham, Antoshin and Larsen's ...g6. But I got the impression that he favours the Hanham.

One point though, Seel chooses the orthodox 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 move order, while the modern Hanham is usually reached via 1...d6 2...Nf6 3...e5 / 3...Nbd7 4...e5.

Pros and cons with both, 1...e5 requires some knowledge of White's alternatives to 2.Nf3 while, as Seel mentions: 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.f3 could end up in a King's Indian or if 3...d5 4.Nc3 could become a BDG with an extra tempo.
As far as I know, Seel may be the only one who actually mentions that BDG-connection, Bauer only gives 4.e5 for example.

But it looks like it may have some bite:
[pgn][Event "Politiken Cup"]
[Site "Copenhagen"]
[Date "1996.??.??"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Ward, Christopher"]
[Black "Glek, Igor V"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "2505"]
[BlackElo "2635"]
[PlyCount "63"]
[EventDate "1996.06.??"]
[EventType "swiss"]
[EventRounds "11"]
[EventCountry "DEN"]
[Source "ChessBase"]

1. d4 d6 2. e4 Nf6 3. f3 d5 4. Nc3 dxe4 (4... e6 5. Be3 dxe4 6. fxe4 Bb4 7. Qd3
Nc6 8. Nf3 Bd7 9. Be2 Qe7 10. O-O O-O-O 11. a3 Bxc3 12. bxc3 Ng4 13. Bd2 e5 14.
Rab1 b6 15. h3 Nf6 16. d5 Na5 17. Qa6+ {
1-0 Miroshnichenko,E (2510)-Firman,N (2505)/Alushta-100, Alushta UKR 2002}) 5.
Bg5 h6 6. Bxf6 exf6 7. Nxe4 f5 8. Nf2 c5 9. dxc5 Qa5+ 10. Qd2 Qxd2+ 11. Kxd2
Bxc5 12. Bb5+ Nc6 13. Nd3 Bb6 14. Ne2 O-O 15. Bxc6 bxc6 16. c4 Re8 17. c5 Bc7
18. Nd4 Ba6 19. Nb4 Rad8 20. Nbxc6 Rd5 21. b4 Bb5 22. Kc2 Bxc6 23. Nxc6 Re6 24.
Nxa7 Re2+ 25. Kb3 Rdd2 26. a4 Rxg2 27. a5 Rd3+ 28. Kc4 Rxf3 29. a6 Rb2 30. Nc6
Rf4+ 31. Kb5 Be5 32. Rhb1 1-0

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Re: learning the moderne philidor
Reply #2 - 07/22/12 at 08:40:11
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imho the best book about Philidor is Seel´s book:
The Philidor - A Secret Weapon.
  

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Re: learning the moderne philidor
Reply #1 - 07/22/12 at 03:09:23
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Of the three books, Bauer's received the best reviews (and indeed it is very good). It is older than the other two works, but the Phillidor isn't the world's most trendy opening. I've heard that Barsky's book was good without being great, and ditto for The Black Lion, but both are repertoire works while Bauer's book is more comprehensive. The Black Lion book covers a setup where Black usually forgoes castling in favour of ...g5 at some point, so if this sort of system appeals to you then maybe that's the book for you.

As far as I know, none of the books cover the recent trend to play 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5 4.Nf3 Nbd7 5.Bc4 Be7 6.0-0 0-0 7.a4 a6 as Black.
  

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learning the moderne philidor
07/21/12 at 21:56:51
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which book shall i buy.

Barskys modern philidor, Black lion or Bauers philidor files ?
  
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