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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #30 - 05/13/22 at 13:03:14
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Another worthy bookmark - thx!
  
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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #29 - 05/13/22 at 10:43:14
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The Kenilworthian was a great resource.
  
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Reply #28 - 05/12/22 at 12:42:53
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Sweet! Thank you very much!
  
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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #27 - 05/12/22 at 01:48:19
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cathexis wrote on 05/11/22 at 13:15:13:
Does anyone know if they are archived anywhere on-line?

Well, you could try _The_ Internet Archive. For example:
https://web.archive.org/web/20040603070328/http://www.chesscafe.com/tim/kibb.htm
  
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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #26 - 05/11/22 at 13:15:13
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And after a 7-year hiatus in this thread...

I am waiting for a copy via Ebay of his Bishop's Opening book from the 70's since I want to review what was with what is in that opening. I read somewhere of the value of his Kibitzer newsletter. Does anyone know if they are archived anywhere on-line?



  
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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #25 - 02/21/15 at 00:21:49
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I put together a bibliography devoted to 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.f4, which is a challenging line for juniors and club players:

http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/vienna-gambit-c29-bibliography.html

Most of the books mentioned also cover 3.Bc4 lines.

Also, an analysis based on games from the Alrick Man theme tournament:
http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/games/java/2014/alrick-man-complete.htm
  
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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #24 - 02/20/15 at 00:56:22
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Claus Jensen wrote on 02/19/15 at 16:06:19:
The Modern Vienna Game
by Ovetchkin and Soloviov is out

The book is 100% based on 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 rather than 3.f4


It's by no means the only move for Black, but 3. .. Nxe4 is well-known for generating positions of extreme boredom or extreme imbalance.
  
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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #23 - 02/19/15 at 16:06:19
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The Modern Vienna Game
by Ovetchkin and Soloviov is out

The book is 100% based on 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 rather than 3.f4 (3...d5! simplifies to easily)

Extract from pre-face:
The Vienna set-up is aimed at very aggressive play, which often include sacrifices, but White prefers to be on the safe side, without burning all the bridges and to try to justify his actions from the point of view of positional play as well.
At first he develops his minor pieces to active positions, then he advances the the thematic move f4, castles (usually kingside) and begins an attack only after all this.


http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1407440347
  

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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #22 - 12/01/14 at 19:57:46
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Does anyone know anything about The Modern Vienna Game by Ovetchkin & Soloviov from Chess Stars? I see a table of contents, but no publication date. Any word?
  

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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #21 - 12/05/13 at 16:23:23
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The book had the effect good books usually have: it made the stupids more stupid, the intelligent more intelligent and the other thousands of readers remained unchanged.
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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #20 - 12/04/13 at 22:26:16
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BeatleFred wrote on 11/17/13 at 09:03:17:
Another book is 'The Vienna Game and Gambit' by A.E. Santasiere and Ken Smith, Chess Digest, 1992.


Just finished going over this one and I found it very helpful, although I only focused on the 3. f4 lines.  I would suggest checking their analysis against your database and using your engine because I did find some instances where I don't necessarily agree with them. 

For example they prefer the Pierce over the Hammpe-Allgaier and therefore don't put much info on the Hammpe-Allgaier but the line they give as busting the Hammpe-Allgaier seems to rely on white making an error and as far as I can tell it seems easier for white to play than the Pierce.

They suggest after 6...h5 7Nxf7 Kxf7 8. d4 d5 9 Bxf4 Bb4 10. Be2 that the Hammpe-Allgaier is refuted.  I agree that Be2 looks bad for white, but after 10. Bd3 white seems fine?
  
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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #19 - 11/17/13 at 09:03:17
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Another book is 'The Vienna Game and Gambit' by A.E. Santasiere and Ken Smith, Chess Digest, 1992.
  
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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #18 - 03/06/13 at 01:11:38
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Fromper wrote on 03/05/13 at 18:41:06:
What about the other books?

Tseitlin/Glaskov 1995 has about 100 pages theory plus some illustrative games.
Chapter 1: Rare replies to 2.Nc3 page 9.
2: 2...Nc6 unusual lines page 12.
3: The solid 2...Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d3 Bc5 page 23 (in fact King's Gambit Declined).
4: The 2...Nc6 3.f4 Gambit page 39 (seriously outdated).
5: The wild 2...Nf6 3.Bc4 Nxe4 page 53.
6: The quiet 2...Nf6 3.g3 page 68.
7: The classical 2...Nf6 3.f4 d5 page 83.
8: Illustrative games page 108.

Missing: 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.d3 c6 5.f4 d5, which is quite a problem if you head for the KGD.
  

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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #17 - 03/05/13 at 18:41:06
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I'll definitely look at those Harding articles. I had actually forgotten that the Pierce Gambit was a name for a line in the Vienna, so I should search for that, too.

So as for the books on the Vienna, there seem to be a few mentioned in this thread, but no real comments on quality, or what lines they cover. Lane's book seems to be more easily available than some of the older books. Is it any good? Does it cover the gambit lines, and other tactical variations? What about the other books?
  

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Re: C25-C29: books about the Vienna opening
Reply #16 - 03/05/13 at 18:16:47
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MNb wrote on 03/05/13 at 17:17:44:
Fromper wrote on 03/05/13 at 15:51:13:
II'm looking to play the more tactical stuff,

Don't forget to check Tim Harding's The Kibitzer either,

http://www.google.com/search?q=Pierce+Gambit&sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chessca...

I analysed this stuff some time ago and compared my analysis with Harding's (Kibitzer 97):
1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4 exf4 4.Nf3 g5 5.d4 (the Pierce gambit) g4 6.Bc4 gxf3 7.Qxf3 (a rare move) Qh4+ 8.g3 Nxd4 9.Qf2 Qf6 10.Bxf4 Bb4 11.O-O Bxc3 12.bxc3 Ne6 13.Qd2 Qe7 14.Bxe6 dxe6 15.Rad1 (so far we agree) and now I have 15...b6 and I don't see why black shouldn't win this
his analysis of 7.O-O can also be improved: 7...Nxd4 8.Bxf4 Bg7 9.Bxf7+ Kxf7 10.e5 Nf5 (instead of d5) 11.Qd5+ Ke8 12.Qxf3 h5 13.Rae1 d5 14.exd6+ Kf7 15.dxc7 Qd4+ 16.Kh1 Nf6 and again I think this is lost for white

this doesn't mean the Pierce gambit is unplayable at lower levels, but if you want to play something tactical but not too unsound I would go for the Hamppe-Allgaier with 5.h4 g4 6.Ng5
  
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