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Re: Fianchetto KID to Grunfeld avoiding English traps
Reply #3 - 07/31/12 at 16:47:10
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Donaldson and Hansen in their White repertoire book give ...Nc6 a bit later, and consider it a good try for Black: 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.g3 Bg7 4.Bg2 0-0 5.0-0 d5 6.cxd5 Nxd5 7.Nc3 Nc6 and now 8.Nxd5 Qxd5 9.d3 Qb5 or 8.d4 Nb6 9.d5 Na5 (same as the line gramsci just gave). Is this really so bad for Black? I notice it has been played by strong GMs in recent years.

Black can also deviate with 8.d4 Bf5!? which was recommended in a recent S.O.S (No. 14 i believe).
  

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Re: Fianchetto KID to Grunfeld avoiding English traps
Reply #2 - 07/31/12 at 14:47:13
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TN wrote on 07/31/12 at 13:53:44:
There is some move order trick where on move 5 you can play ...Nc6 and meet d4 with ...d5 and d3 with e5, but I don't recall the exact move order.

But if both sides have already castled white can play the favourable 9.d5 (1. c4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2 O-O 5. O-O Nc6 6. Nc3 d5 7. cxd5 Nxd5 8. d4 Nb6 9. d5) and answer 9...Bxc3 with 10.dxc6, when in a "normal" Grunfeld move order with both kings still in the centre 8.d5? just loses a pawn to 8...Bxc3+.


  
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Re: Fianchetto KID to Grunfeld avoiding English traps
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There is some move order trick where on move 5 you can play ...Nc6 and meet d4 with ...d5 and d3 with e5, but I don't recall the exact move order.
  

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Fianchetto KID to Grunfeld avoiding English traps
07/31/12 at 13:31:04
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I'd like to transpose from the Fianchetto KID to the Grunfeld - direct d5 rather than c6 lines preferably - but I don't know how to avoid being move-ordered if white stays flexible and hides his intention of playing d4 or d3 (c4, Nf3, g3, Bg2, o-o before d4 Grunfel or d3 English). What sources may I consult? Thanks for your advice.
  
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