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Re: July update on the London System
Reply #6 - 12/28/12 at 16:28:15
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Keano wrote on 12/28/12 at 16:16:07:
Actually the main issue I have with the London as such is that I cannot bring myself after 1.d4 Nf6 to play such a ridiculous looking move as 2.Bf4, even though I appreciate it is probably required if I am hell bent on entering a London come what may, becuase of 2.Nf3 d5 and the "old school" London is not much to write home about. I suppose logically there can not be much wrong with 2.Bf4, its a just a psychological hang-up/ Knights before Bishops thing I suppose.


I feel your pain.  For me it might also have something to do with a game in one of the earliest books I studied (Janowski-Marshall in Fred Reinfeld's "Learn Chess from the Masters") ...
  
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Re: July update on the London System
Reply #5 - 12/28/12 at 16:16:07
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 12/27/12 at 12:49:52:
Ok, maybe 4...Qa5 is not so wonderful after all ... it seems capturing on d4 is best - everything is revealed in his December update!! Smiley


Yes another fantastic piece of work from Eric, I love the way he writes e.g. "he should have kept soporific by using the 'magic knight' policy of transferring this knight to d3" Great stuff! Even before this update I had in fact been persuaded back to the London triangle system myself, there is a nice recent GM game where White threw in an early Nh4, I'll try and dig it up.

Actually the main issue I have with the London as such is that I cannot bring myself after 1.d4 Nf6 to play such a ridiculous looking move as 2.Bf4, even though I appreciate it is probably required if I am hell bent on entering a London come what may, becuase of 2.Nf3 d5 and the "old school" London is not much to write home about. I suppose logically there can not be much wrong with 2.Bf4, its a just a psychological hang-up/ Knights before Bishops thing I suppose.
  
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Re: July update on the London System
Reply #4 - 12/27/12 at 12:49:52
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Ok, maybe 4...Qa5 is not so wonderful after all ... it seems capturing on d4 is best - everything is revealed in his December update!! Smiley
  
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Re: July update on the London System
Reply #3 - 11/23/12 at 20:42:47
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Thanks Tony, as usual Eric is ahead of the game when it come to the London system! Not sure a move like 4...Qa5 will put off prospective White players mind, having looked at Erics analysis, which is excellent as usual, there still seems like rich possibilities for investigation here.
  
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Re: July update on the London System
Reply #2 - 11/23/12 at 10:53:13
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Keano wrote on 11/23/12 at 10:34:57:
There is another idea in the London which I'm not sure Eric Prie has covered, because it is slightly weird, but I noted Nigel Short played it this year :

1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.Nc3!? heads into some new London territory.

He looked at this many years ago in a Karlik-Polak game where he gave 4...Qa5! - it's in the playable eBook, 1...d5 2 Bf4 chapter.
  
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Re: July update on the London System
Reply #1 - 11/23/12 at 10:34:57
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It was indeed very interesting. There is another idea in the London which I'm not sure Eric Prie has covered, because it is slightly weird, but I noted Nigel Short played it this year :

1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 Nf6 3.e3 c5 4.Nc3!? heads into some new London territory.

I found myself investigating this stuff because for some reason I played the London myself in a game recently. After spending a couple of hours preparing technical lines against the Tarrasch  I made an over the board decision to play Bf4 instead, and it worked well, my opponent was forced to start thinking for himself.
  
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July update on the London System
08/05/12 at 16:16:39
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Very nice!   Smiley
  
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