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Re: Recommend good line Nxc6 vs Ritcher Rauzer
Reply #8 - 11/11/17 at 17:53:13
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I think we have a critical variation after:

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5! e6 7. Qd2 a6 8. O-O-O h6!? 9. Nxc6! bxc6 10. Bf4! d5 11. Qe3!?
Black has a few moves here. But a possible "main line" is 11...Qa5!? 12. Be2 Bb4!? 13.Be5!? Be7!? Black's sequence of Bb4-e7 looks like a tempo loss, but white's bishop no longer eyes the h6 pawn.

After 14. exd5 cxd5 15. Qg3 O-O 16. Rd4 Ne8 17. Bd3, Chess Publishing concludes that the position "is not too pleasant for Black, who has to watch the white pieces coming towards his king, Antal,G-Magyar,A/Zalakaros 2001."

That game continued:
f5 18. Qg6 Bf6 19. Re1 Bd7 20. Bxf6 Rxf6 21. Qg3 Qb6 22. Qe5 Rb8 23. b3 Nc7 24. g4 Qc5 25. Kb2 Rc8 26. Rc4 Qb6 27. Rf4 Nb5 28. Bxb5 axb5 29. a3 Qc7 30. gxf5 Qxe5 31. Rxe5
Rc5 32. fxe6 1-0

Stockfish rates black as better (SF -105) after 22...Nd6. Clearly white has pressure, but black's central pawns may give him chances to first hold, then win. Analyzing further with SF: 23. Rf4 Rb8 24. Na4 Qc6 25.Qc3 Ne4 26. Qxc6 Bxc6 27. Nc3 g5 28. Rf3 and white has been pushed back (SF -101). What do you think?

CP also analyzed a game, won by black, following 14f4 (with suggested improvements for white), and mentions 14Qg3 as an option. Earlier options for black include 11...Bb4 and 11...Be7.

Prior to the advent of 9Nxc6,  9Be3 and 9Bf4 were played. I think black was doing O.K. This may have been the most popular and best scoring line for black at the time

9Nxc6 is recommended by both Experts vs the Sicilian and Dismantling the Sicilian. It certainly leads to different positions. Maybe black can find his chances with a little work.
  
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Re: Recommend good line Nxc6 vs Ritcher Rauzer
Reply #7 - 02/25/16 at 04:52:20
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8.Nxc6!? is also very interesting. I was surprised to see this assessed as +/= in CHOPIN, but there is a very serious case for it after 8...bxc6 9.0-0-0 d5 10.Qe3! from computer and correspondence games. There is a strange position after the almost-forcing sequence 10...Be7 11.Bxf6 gxf6 12.Bc4 Bb7 13.Rhe1 Qc7 14.Bb3. AFAIK no one has tried 14...0-0!?, but this may be the way to go, even though initially it appears to lose a pawn... (but it gets crazy sharp and complicated!)
  
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Re: Recommend good line Nxc6 vs Ritcher Rauzer
Reply #6 - 01/07/13 at 21:43:32
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My memories are that Black is almost lost in this line. I can recall at least two sources - Khalifman's Openings for White according to Anand, Kortchnoi's book in Russian, and some articles in NIC Yearbook. I think this line is out of business already and there White has a clear advantage.
  
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Re: Recommend good line Nxc6 vs Ritcher Rauzer
Reply #5 - 10/23/12 at 11:25:59
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sssthepro wrote on 10/23/12 at 06:54:42:
Yes, sorry, it should be Bf4 instead of f4. May I know why you find Bb4 difficult to deal with tp2205?

The simple answer is that I don't remember ever winning against that move (which of course does not mean anything). If I still have the pgn's with the games I played against that move somewhere I may be able to give you a real answer.
  
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Re: Recommend good line Nxc6 vs Ritcher Rauzer
Reply #4 - 10/23/12 at 06:54:42
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Yes, sorry, it should be Bf4 instead of f4. May I know why you find Bb4 difficult to deal with tp2205?

  
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Re: Recommend good line Nxc6 vs Ritcher Rauzer
Reply #3 - 10/22/12 at 12:51:24
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Scarblac wrote on 10/22/12 at 11:59:41:
I think you mistyped some moves. I'm only reading this blindfold at work, but white's Bg5 is under attack by pawn h6 since move 8 and I don't think white can ignore that to this extent.


I assume it should be


There seem to be plenty of alternatives along the way but if they are better for black I am not sure. As white I am reasonably happy with Khalifman's recommendation 13.Ne4. I find 12... Bb4 more difficult to deal with.
  
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Re: Recommend good line Nxc6 vs Ritcher Rauzer
Reply #2 - 10/22/12 at 12:31:57
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10 Bf4 instead of 10 f4 I presume. Hasn't this been reccomended for white in a few books?

Mostly I'd imagine see databases and things to see what the specalists in this from blacks perspective have been doing recently. Bearing in mind of course that there has to be a chance that it may just be objectively pleasant (or better) for white.
  
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Re: Recommend good line Nxc6 vs Ritcher Rauzer
Reply #1 - 10/22/12 at 11:59:41
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I think you mistyped some moves. I'm only reading this blindfold at work, but white's Bg5 is under attack by pawn h6 since move 8 and I don't think white can ignore that to this extent.
  
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Recommend good line Nxc6 vs Ritcher Rauzer
10/21/12 at 06:06:55
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1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 a6 8.0-0-0 h6 9.Nxc6 bxc6 10.f4 d5 11.Qe3

What is a good variation for Black in this line? The line I once played is

Qa5 12.Be2 dxe4 13.Qg3 Ra7

But it seems that Black is worse after 14.Be5 Rb7 15.Rd4 Nd7 16.Rhd1 Qxe5 17. Qxe5 Nxe5 18.Rd8+ Ke7 19.Rxc8 and I think White is much better.
  
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