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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #21 - 07/19/22 at 14:30:16
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MJMcCready wrote on 07/19/22 at 04:10:41:
I think its called the O'Kelly variation isn't it?

No, the O'Kelly is 2. Nf3 a6.  (Incidentally it's advocated in a recent book by Andrew Martin.)
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #20 - 07/19/22 at 04:10:41
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Michael Wilde wrote on 11/20/12 at 08:25:27:
I like this move against 2.Nc3...What do other players think.
1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 a6 is the line chosen in the new book The Sharpest Sicilian 2012 and Fighting the Anti-Sicilians by Richard here at Chesspub.  I like the idea of not giving white the Fianchetto to try and break open with his king side pawns!

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I think its called the O'Kelly variation isn't it? If black wants to stop Bb5, its a good move. Even when the bishop goes to c4 it can still be kicked with tempo. Whenever I come up against it I find it a bit frustrating. Oh and by the way, I think it was last year but Magnus crucified someone with it in one of his banter blitzes.
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #19 - 04/05/20 at 15:42:37
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kylemeister wrote on 04/04/20 at 00:08:34:
RoleyPoley wrote on 04/03/20 at 22:09:03:
I was curious about this - they're calling it a rossolimo because white plays an early Bb5 - I  saw someone play it against one of my team mates in a league game last year.

Well, various old main lines of 2. f4 involve Bb5(+) on move 4.  I notice that Larsen's perhaps last game with 2. f4 (in 1998) had it on move 3 after 2...d5 (which was given by a Russian opening encyclopedia in 1996 as leading to equality).

But the "Accelerated Rossolimo" is "a new innovative move order" somehow.

I had assumed this was recommending Bb5 on the 3rd move. I havent looked at the lines it is covering though (nor do i have any knowledge of this opening to know how 'new' this is.
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #18 - 04/04/20 at 00:08:34
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RoleyPoley wrote on 04/03/20 at 22:09:03:
I was curious about this - they're calling it a rossolimo because white plays an early Bb5 - I  saw someone play it against one of my team mates in a league game last year.

Well, various old main lines of 2. f4 involve Bb5(+) on move 4.  I notice that Larsen's perhaps last game with 2. f4 (in 1998) had it on move 3 after 2...d5 (which was given by a Russian opening encyclopedia in 1996 as leading to equality).

But the "Accelerated Rossolimo" is "a new innovative move order" somehow.
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #17 - 04/03/20 at 22:09:03
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kylemeister wrote on 04/03/20 at 16:43:06:
Incidentally there is now a Chessable course advocating 2. f4"!", titled "The Accelerated Rossolimo" (huh?).


I was curious about this - they're calling it a rossolimo because white plays an early Bb5 - I  saw someone play it against one of my team mates in a league game last year.
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #16 - 04/03/20 at 16:43:06
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Incidentally there is now a Chessable course advocating 2. f4"!", titled "The Accelerated Rossolimo" (huh?).
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #15 - 03/26/20 at 15:35:53
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Laramonet wrote on 03/26/20 at 13:45:22:
New to the Sicilian, so sorry is this is an odd question. Ftacnik recommends 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 d6 but doesn't mention 2.f4 at all.Is there anything wrong with 1.e4 c5 2.f4 d6 trying to get the same positions after 3.Nc3 ?


The only thing that I'm aware of is that White could try a "Big Clamp" setup, where he puts his pawns on c3, d3, e4, and f4.  Similar to a King's Indian Attack where White might argue that he hasn't had to move his knight away from f3 to push the pawn to f4, so maybe similar to a Leningrad Dutch Attack?  

I don't think that it's anything to be especially afraid of, but I don't really know because I've always just played 1.e4 c5 2.f4 d5!.  I think that 2.f4 is slightly dubious due to 2...d5!.  White can't force you to transpose anywhere outside of your normal repertoire, this is an independent line that you just learn to play for Black because White is already looking for equality.
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #14 - 03/26/20 at 13:45:22
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New to the Sicilian, so sorry is this is an odd question. Ftacnik recommends 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 d6 but doesn't mention 2.f4 at all.Is there anything wrong with 1.e4 c5 2.f4 d6 trying to get the same positions after 3.Nc3 ?
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #13 - 12/02/14 at 03:40:03
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I think it is fair to say that 2. f4 is usually met by 2. ...d5(!). A rook pawn move here would be surprising.

2. ...a6 is a common enough response to 2. Nc3, particularly for Najdorfers. 
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #12 - 12/01/14 at 16:11:57
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Sure, 1.e4 c5 2.f4 a6 is played every second day at the highest level...  Roll Eyes
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #11 - 01/12/13 at 04:58:29
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You can respond with  2....a6 on your second move in response to 2.f4 . Then immediately continue with b5and Bb7 attacking e4 (the point of this line).This is not a speculative line - it is played at the highest levels of chess.


  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #10 - 11/29/12 at 15:38:41
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BobbyDigital80: Okay, I see. Smiley  In my experience though, I have switched openings more times from not getting what I want than from getting what I want and still getting crushed.
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #9 - 11/29/12 at 09:25:53
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Not intentionally Smiley
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #8 - 11/29/12 at 07:40:33
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MartinC wrote on 11/20/12 at 16:29:33:
Stopping the attack comes from being prepared and playing accurately subsequently Smiley So sure, more risk initially but potentially greater internal satisfaction at the end of it.

More seriously it is a little inconsistent for a Nardojf to run scared of 2.. d6 3 f4 when they've got stuff like 6 Bg5 etc to deal with!


Howcome you always spell Najdorf as Nardojf?
  
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Re: 2...a6 against the Grand Prix
Reply #7 - 11/29/12 at 07:37:46
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Pikachulord6 wrote on 11/20/12 at 15:56:02:
2...d6 frustrates a Grand Prix Attack player?! I always thought that it gave a GPA player exactly what he wanted. The main two moves that frustrate (at least to me) are 2...e6 and 2...a6. In both cases, I believe f2-f4 is less optimal, and some GPA players prefer to transpose to the Open Sicilian instead.

EDIT: I just realized that you already acknowledged that 2...d6 gives White what he wants. But I still don't see how it stops any attack.


If I recall correctly, if White insists on a Closed Sicilian against 2...a6, then g2-g3 is preferable to the immediate f2-f4.


I was half-joking, but my point was I like it when I give White what he wants and still beat him, making him lose confidence in his anti-Sicilian.
  
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