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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #21 - 05/08/14 at 23:59:22
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What do you think of the layout? Specifically in the be3 section, I find it very hard to follow sometimes. I think it could be organized better.

Yes, for example on page 76, he analyses 18...Ld6 and gives on move 20 an innovation 20...Qc7!N. But on the next page, he says 18...Bd6 isn't the best move 18....Bd7 is much stronger. The best move should be printet bold and it should be the mainline and not an inferior move.
I like that he gives to the mainline alternatives but it should be organized in a better way.
  
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #20 - 08/30/13 at 08:23:47
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And the various insanely violent Bg5/o-o-o based early wipe out attempts..... 

I seem to remember Golubev's Sozin book discussing this sort of move order thing in some detail.
  
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #19 - 08/30/13 at 06:53:48
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tony37 wrote on 08/28/13 at 12:55:52:
najdorfslayer wrote on 08/14/13 at 16:34:20:
The 6.Bc4 chapter was also a bit disappointing. He recommends the 6.e6 7.Bb3 Nbd7 line, however the well known issue is what to play after 7.0-0. The author recommends 7...b5 transposing to the standard 7...b5 lines with 8.0-0. So you have to learn both the ...Nbd7 & ...b5 lines with 0-0.

so why is 6.Bc4 e6 7.Bb3 being played a lot more than 6.Bc4 e6 7.O-O, while the latter just seems less work because it avoids the 7...Nbd7 line ??


Perhaps because of 7. 0-0 Be7!?  and 8-0-0 
This equalizes as far as I know
  

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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #18 - 08/29/13 at 21:06:53
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Presumably some Whites want to keep the possibility of 0-0-0 (e.g. the Velimirovic) versus ...Nc6.
  
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #17 - 08/29/13 at 20:54:46
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tony37 wrote on 08/28/13 at 12:55:52:
najdorfslayer wrote on 08/14/13 at 16:34:20:
The 6.Bc4 chapter was also a bit disappointing. He recommends the 6.e6 7.Bb3 Nbd7 line, however the well known issue is what to play after 7.0-0. The author recommends 7...b5 transposing to the standard 7...b5 lines with 8.0-0. So you have to learn both the ...Nbd7 & ...b5 lines with 0-0.

so why is 6.Bc4 e6 7.Bb3 being played a lot more than 6.Bc4 e6 7.O-O, while the latter just seems less work because it avoids the 7...Nbd7 line ??


Good question
  
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #16 - 08/28/13 at 12:55:52
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najdorfslayer wrote on 08/14/13 at 16:34:20:
The 6.Bc4 chapter was also a bit disappointing. He recommends the 6.e6 7.Bb3 Nbd7 line, however the well known issue is what to play after 7.0-0. The author recommends 7...b5 transposing to the standard 7...b5 lines with 8.0-0. So you have to learn both the ...Nbd7 & ...b5 lines with 0-0.

so why is 6.Bc4 e6 7.Bb3 being played a lot more than 6.Bc4 e6 7.O-O, while the latter just seems less work because it avoids the 7...Nbd7 line ??
  
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #15 - 08/15/13 at 18:44:50
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E4Ever wrote on 08/15/13 at 18:27:52:
What do you think of the layout? Specifically in the be3 section, I find it very hard to follow sometimes. I think it could be organized better.

I think that can be said about every New In Chess book
  
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #14 - 08/15/13 at 18:27:52
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What do you think of the layout? Specifically in the be3 section, I find it very hard to follow sometimes. I think it could be organized better.
  
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #13 - 08/14/13 at 20:40:08
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You are quite correct of course, and that is what I am doing at the moment, but would be nice for some stuff literature on the Old Main Line. 

gewgaw wrote on 08/14/13 at 17:07:59:
najdorfslayer wrote on 08/14/13 at 16:34:20:


I am so wanting to see some good coverage on the Old Main Line against 6.Bg5 am hoping Everyman's Chess Developments book on the 6.Bg5 Najdorf has coverage on the 6...Be7 lines especially the 13...0-0 lines in the 10.g4 main line.



You buy every book about the najdorf, but you are still waiting for another book?! Why not working everything out alone with the known engines, because I've the impression, the najdorf is very well "understood" by houdini & co nowadays.

  
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #12 - 08/14/13 at 17:07:59
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najdorfslayer wrote on 08/14/13 at 16:34:20:


I am so wanting to see some good coverage on the Old Main Line against 6.Bg5 am hoping Everyman's Chess Developments book on the 6.Bg5 Najdorf has coverage on the 6...Be7 lines especially the 13...0-0 lines in the 10.g4 main line.



You buy every book about the najdorf, but you are still waiting for another book?! Why not working everything out alone with the known engines, because I've the impression, the najdorf is very well "understood" by houdini & co nowadays.
  

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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #11 - 08/14/13 at 16:34:20
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Yes I agree, I have the book (I tend to purchase anything on the Najdorf) and I was also disappointed.

I found the choice on the Poisoned Pawn a turn off, purely because it was given recently in 'The Sharpest Sicilian'

The 6.Bc4 chapter was also a bit disappointing. He recommends the 6.e6 7.Bb3 Nbd7 line, however the well known issue is what to play after 7.0-0. The author recommends 7...b5 transposing to the standard 7...b5 lines with 8.0-0. So you have to learn both the ...Nbd7 & ...b5 lines with 0-0.

The 6.Be3 line given I suppose is a matter of taste, I was a bit glad it wasn't the Topalov ....h5 lines as they were given in 'The Sharpest Sicilian & 'GM Rep 6'. I would have liked the standard main line with ...0-0 and ...b5.   

I liked his coverage of the 6.h3 system giving 6...e5 with ...h5, as ...e6 is given elsewhere.

His system against 6.f4 with Qc7 is one i have never really played much but is different, I always prefer Nbd7 instead.

6.Be2 is same as in other books as far as I can remember.

I am so wanting to see some good coverage on the Old Main Line against 6.Bg5 am hoping Everyman's Chess Developments book on the 6.Bg5 Najdorf has coverage on the 6...Be7 lines especially the 13...0-0 lines in the 10.g4 main line.

E4Ever wrote on 08/13/13 at 19:45:26:
It arrived today. Was very disappointed in Aronian's foreward. Essentially just said that he has known the author for a long time, and he's a honest fellow and a hard worker. Ends with "I for one might start think about reading it myself!" 


How can you write the foreward for something you havent read?!

I also disagree with the choice of the poison pawn. If I am going to commit to studying tons of theory, I wouldn't want to have to deal with any forced draws. The trendy nbd7 would interest me more, or maybe the old main line stuff with h6 thrown in (does this have a name?)

I wasn't thrilled how against the English Attack he recommended the lines with an early a5, though perhaps I should have known this and just didn't do my research.

  
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #10 - 08/13/13 at 19:45:26
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It arrived today. Was very disappointed in Aronian's foreward. Essentially just said that he has known the author for a long time, and he's a honest fellow and a hard worker. Ends with "I for one might start think about reading it myself!" 

How can you write the foreward for something you havent read?!

I also disagree with the choice of the poison pawn. If I am going to commit to studying tons of theory, I wouldn't want to have to deal with any forced draws. The trendy nbd7 would interest me more, or maybe the old main line stuff with h6 thrown in (does this have a name?)

I wasn't thrilled how against the English Attack he recommended the lines with an early a5, though perhaps I should have known this and just didn't do my research.
  
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #9 - 07/30/13 at 17:57:27
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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #8 - 05/22/13 at 21:39:49
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gwnn wrote on 05/22/13 at 15:26:25:
3. It doesn't fit with the book title Smiley

Maybe the publisher chose the title after the manuscript was well on its way, or something. "Winning" doesn't really fit the Poisoned Pawn's reputation as sharp but with lots of forced draws...

I was in Sandnes to follow parts of the recent Norway Chess 2013, and Karjakin's 6.Bg5 in the last round game where all he needed was a draw was lauded as a shrewd choice by the commentators, since there are so many forced draws there!

In turn, both Karjakin and some other top player called Topalov's answer 6...e6 7.f4 Qc7 a good try in the circumstances, since that's one of the few defences where White doesn't have any forced draw, and this might have unnerved Karjakin (who did in fact emerge worse from the opening, though they drew in the end).

So 7...Qc7 could be a good choice to keep the Najdorf a winning try. It was also recommended in "Mastering the Najdorf" by Arizmendi and Moreno (already 9 years old). Though Black must be ready to play some Richter-Rauzer-like positions when White exchanges on f6, and this is not to every Najdorf player's taste.
  

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Re: Winning with the Najdorf Sicilian
Reply #7 - 05/22/13 at 16:03:04
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Also agree about the PP. The fact that it is also covered in "The Sharpest Sicilian", is another reason I wouldn't buy this. 

If it recommended other lines that had not been done to death elsewhere I may have been tempted.

  
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