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Re: Maroczy Bind
Reply #4 - 08/09/13 at 00:50:09
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Amen to Michael Ayton's words. But I thought that posts like the OP were now.taboo. They are wholly unconstructive.

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Re: Maroczy Bind
Reply #3 - 08/09/13 at 00:34:10
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You’re bleeding your chess strength with this nonsense, sloughter, boring the pants off the rest of us, and impoverishing yourself in terms of chess understanding, and pleasure. It shows a complete misunderstanding both of chess itself and of how engines can contribute in chess to fixate on engine output like you do. Since you’re interested in engines, why don’t you learn to use them properly – that is, as an adjunct to human understanding rather than as an addictive substitute for it? There are several books on the market that discuss this and you might actually enjoy exploring the ideas they contain. At the same time I think you should turn your engine off, get out there and play some games and enjoy the dynamism and the clash of plans that is the human chess contest. That’s what the game of chess is, that’s what’s lacking in engine chess, and that’s largely why the moves even of strong engines are (depending on the position) actually not always very good or very interesting moves. Playing lots of real chess and talking with your opponents afterwards will give you a feeling for this and for when the moves that your engine is showing you are interesting and when they’re not. At the moment, you’re just spewing out a lot of random engine output that’s often (I’d say usually!) completely devoid of value and interest.
  
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Re: Maroczy Bind
Reply #2 - 08/08/13 at 23:41:21
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'you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink'
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Re: Maroczy Bind
Reply #1 - 08/08/13 at 23:19:55
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sloughter wrote on 07/20/13 at 19:54:32:
The  following game was played against Houdini 3 at 120'40  60'20  30. Does White have an advantage or is a draw the appropriate result. Black has no counterplay but how does White make progress?


1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 a6 5. c4 d6 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. Be2 Qc7 8. O-O Bd7 9. Kh1 Nc6 10. Nc2 Be7 11. Ne3 h5 12. f4 h4 13. h3 Rd8 14. Bf3 Kf8 15. b3 Kg8 16. Bb2 Qa5 17. Rf2 Qb6 18. Qd2 Nh5 19. Bxh5 Rxh5 20. Qe2 Rh7 21. Rd1 Qc7 22. Rd2 Qb6 23. Rd1 Qc7 24. Rd2 Qb6 * 1/2-1/2


Here's a second Maroczy Bind against Houdini

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. c4 Nf6 6. Nc3 d6 7. f3 Nxd4 8.Qxd4 Bg7 9. Be2 O-O 10. Qf2 Be6 11. Bd2 Nd7 12. Rc1 Qb6 13. b3 Bd4 14. Qf1 Nf6
15. Nd1 Rfc8 16. Bc3 Bc5 17. Nb2 Bb4 18. Na4 Qa5 19. Kf2 Bxc3 20. Nxc3 Qc5+ 21.Ke1 d5 22. exd5 Qe3 23. Rc2 Bxd5 24. Qf2 Qe5 25. f4 Qf5 26. Rd2 Bc6 27. Qe3 Rd8 28. Qe5 Rxd2 29. Kxd2 Rd8+ 30. Kc1 Qxe5 31. fxe5 Bxg2 32. Rg1 Ne4 33. Rxg2 Nxc334. Bf3 b6 35. a3 * =/+ to =
  
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Maroczy Bind
07/20/13 at 19:54:32
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The  following game was played against Houdini 3 at 120'40  60'20  30. Does White have an advantage or is a draw the appropriate result. Black has no counterplay but how does White make progress?


1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 a6 5. c4 d6 6. Nc3 Nf6 7. Be2 Qc7 8. O-O Bd7 9. Kh1 Nc6 10. Nc2 Be7 11. Ne3 h5 12. f4 h4 13. h3 Rd8 14. Bf3 Kf8 15. b3 Kg8 16. Bb2 Qa5 17. Rf2 Qb6 18. Qd2 Nh5 19. Bxh5 Rxh5 20. Qe2 Rh7 21. Rd1 Qc7 22. Rd2 Qb6 23. Rd1 Qc7 24. Rd2 Qb6 * 1/2-1/2
  
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