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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #14 - 06/05/14 at 20:56:30
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I think this line is better way to play against Alekhine-Chatard Gambit...These are the notes i have made against Alekhine Chatard Gambit
  
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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #13 - 06/03/14 at 15:51:52
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I am not getting any way for white to take advantage here..I think Black had equalize the game.. Cry
  
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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #12 - 12/13/13 at 18:19:46
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The lines that I found are from GM Nick DeFirman's book Modern Chess Openings 15th edition.  These are some of the ideas that he had for declined gambit lines.
  
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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #11 - 09/10/13 at 00:13:29
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ghenghisclown wrote on 09/09/13 at 21:14:44:
realpolitik wrote on 09/09/13 at 10:46:47:
What about 1e4 e6 2d4 d5 3Nc3 Nf6 4Bg5 Be7 5e5 Nfd7 6h4 h6!? This has been unfairly criticized in some sources. It may actually be blacks best. White can exchange on e7 or play Qh5 but maybe Be3 is best hoping that h6 will prove a weakness



I think in other posts, either on this specific thread or elsewhere on Chesspub, contributors have indicated that Be3 is the best. My view is that White capturing on e7 seems a mistake.

But, anywho, I think White is better here. I prefer 6...Nc6.



the dark squared bishop is often black's best piece but engines love Be3  ... it sure seems like an ugly and counter intuitive move yet my engine has it far out ahead as best move here

i doubt i would play it otb without having looked at engine first

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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #10 - 09/09/13 at 21:14:44
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realpolitik wrote on 09/09/13 at 10:46:47:
What about 1e4 e6 2d4 d5 3Nc3 Nf6 4Bg5 Be7 5e5 Nfd7 6h4 h6!? This has been unfairly criticized in some sources. It may actually be blacks best. White can exchange on e7 or play Qh5 but maybe Be3 is best hoping that h6 will prove a weakness



I think in other posts, either on this specific thread or elsewhere on Chesspub, contributors have indicated that Be3 is the best. My view is that White capturing on e7 seems a mistake.

But, anywho, I think White is better here. I prefer 6...Nc6.
  

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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #9 - 09/09/13 at 10:46:47
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What about 1e4 e6 2d4 d5 3Nc3 Nf6 4Bg5 Be7 5e5 Nfd7 6h4 h6!? This has been unfairly criticized in some sources. It may actually be blacks best. White can exchange on e7 or play Qh5 but maybe Be3 is best hoping that h6 will prove a weakness
  
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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #8 - 08/15/13 at 18:41:10
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Here is the latest game on this line
  
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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #7 - 08/14/13 at 08:50:10
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That forum is dealing with 8.Qd3 Can we discuss 8.Nh3 Qe7 9 Nf4 in this forum ??? I think the only problem is when black plays 9...g6 instead of 9... Nc6.Does any one finds a way for white to get an advantage ?
  
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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #6 - 08/13/13 at 18:16:48
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Maybe what Dom means is this thread:

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1079808789/10

Not just a 8.Qd3 thread but still...

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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #5 - 08/13/13 at 17:52:11
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Here's the game in pgn. To use pgn, just click on the PGN button and enter the game.

I don't see Qd3 that Dom mentioned in his last post.

  
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Re: C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #4 - 08/13/13 at 10:22:38
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Just a reminder for chesspub members...
You can google-search on the forum for variations.
Here for example. Type in www.google.com, search field:

site:chesspub.com Alekhine Chatard

and you can post in one old thread.

Another hint: use the pgn tag (click on icon as chessboard) to insert your PGN game...help readers, because glyph or fonts for pieces not handled in this text forum.

I don't remember exactly but I feel that Qd3 has been discussed here on the forum




  

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Re: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #3 - 08/13/13 at 09:08:57
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any ways thanks !! Smiley
  
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Re: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #2 - 08/13/13 at 08:57:54
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That survey is from 1993 but I have updated it with recent lines with the help of chessbase 12 Wink.Houdini 3 engine are still going with Nh3 lines.If you want to check my analysis here is the link - http://www.mediafire.com/download/b2...ard_Gambit.cbv
  
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Re: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
Reply #1 - 08/13/13 at 08:46:40
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Hello there.

I see this survey is from 1993.

I dont know that much on this variation. But enough to say that both 8.Nb5!? and especially 8.Qd3!? (often named Hector Gambit) are considered better tries for advantage in todays pratice.

Just so that you are aware of these moves...
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C13: Alekhine-Chatard Gambit
08/13/13 at 05:50:17
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Hello friends

          i want to discuss Alekhine-Chatard Gambit...Its a gambit with h4..What are your recommendation on it ??

[Event "Survey"]
[Site "Opening"]
[Date "1993.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "CBM 37"]
[Black "6.h4 ¥g5 7.hg5 £g5 8.¤h3"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "C14"]
[Annotator "Koravi"]
[PlyCount "46"]
[EventDate "1993.??.??"]
[EventRounds "1"]
[EventCountry "GER"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1993.12.01"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4 Bxg5 7. hxg5 Qxg5 8.
Nh3 Qe7 9. Nf4 Nc6 (9... g6 10. Qg4 Nc6 11. O-O-O h5 12. Qg3 Nb6 13. Qe3 Bd7
14. g4 h4 15. Ng2 O-O-O 16. g5 $13 (16. Rh3 f6 17. exf6 Qxf6 18. g5 Qg7 19.
Rxh4 e5 20. dxe5 d4 21. Rdxd4 Nxd4 22. Qxd4 $15)) 10. Qd2 Nb6 (10... g6 11. Bb5
a6 12. Bxc6 bxc6 13. O-O-O Bb7 14. Na4 $146 c5 15. Nxc5 Nxc5 16. dxc5 Qxc5 17.
Rh6 $14) (10... b6 11. Nb5 Nf8 12. c4 Qd7 13. cxd5 exd5 14. Qc2 $146 a6 15.
Nxd5 axb5 16. Bxb5 Bb7 17. Nb4 Qxd4 18. Nxc6 Qd5 19. Nd4+ c6 20. Bxc6+ Bxc6 21.
Qxc6+ Qxc6 22. Nxc6 $14) 11. Nh5 Rg8 12. Bd3 Bd7 (12... f5 13. exf6 gxf6 14.
Qh6 $16) 13. Bxh7 Rh8 14. Nxg7+ Kd8 15. Ne2 f5 16. exf6 Qxf6 17. Qh6 Qxh6 18.
Rxh6 Ke7 19. Nh5 e5 20. dxe5 Bf5 21. Nf6 Nxe5 22. O-O-O Bxh7 23. Nxh7 Ng4 $14 *

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