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raja Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 125 Location: India Joined: 11/15/10 Gender:	Re: Move oder issue with Marin's repertoire.. Reply #8 - 11/03/13 at 17:56:40	Post Tools	Print Post
	kylemeister wrote on 11/03/13 at 17:10:20: I remembered you as having had an ultra-tactical novelty in the Najdorf or something like that. But some of what you have said (case in point, being concerned about facing a tempo-down Old Indian setup) seems to indicate some kind of deficit in general (opening) background. I can understand what you mean.... actually it was because i did not even realize that it was tempo down of Old indian.....once u pointed out that..every thing was clear....


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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4904 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: Move oder issue with Marin's repertoire.. Reply #7 - 11/03/13 at 17:10:20	Post Tools	Print Post
	I remembered you as having had an ultra-tactical novelty in the Najdorf or something like that. But some of what you have said (case in point, being concerned about facing a tempo-down Old Indian setup) seems to indicate some kind of deficit in general (opening) background.


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raja Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 125 Location: India Joined: 11/15/10 Gender:	Re: Move oder issue with Marin's repertoire.. Reply #6 - 11/03/13 at 16:36:56	Post Tools	Print Post
	kylemeister wrote on 11/03/13 at 15:56:50: I don't know what is in Marin's books about an Old Indian setup; certainly White could play in an English way against it (and perhaps be slightly better). It sounds as though you might consider something like Fundamental Chess Openings (van der Sterren). LOL i am not that bad at openings... only new to this English setups...thats why confused... I got 2 of my novelties published in Nic year book 2 times... Anyways thanks for your help


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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4904 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: Move oder issue with Marin's repertoire.. Reply #5 - 11/03/13 at 15:56:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	I don't know what is in Marin's books about an Old Indian setup; certainly White could play in an English way against it (and perhaps be slightly better). It sounds as though you might consider something like Fundamental Chess Openings (van der Sterren).


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raja Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 125 Location: India Joined: 11/15/10 Gender:	Re: Move oder issue with Marin's repertoire.. Reply #4 - 11/03/13 at 13:38:00	Post Tools	Print Post
	Btw has Marin explained Oldindian setup in his c4 repertoire? if no then where to learn that setup ? Is there any english setup against Old indian available..? or do i have to play old indian main lines with d4 move included?


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raja Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 125 Location: India Joined: 11/15/10 Gender:	Re: Move oder issue with Marin's repertoire.. Reply #3 - 11/03/13 at 12:53:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	Thanks a lot buddy....i am totally satisfied with your idea...but it worries me that now i also have to learn Old Indian despite a tempo down...


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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4904 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: Move oder issue with Marin's repertoire.. Reply #2 - 11/03/13 at 05:51:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	1.c4 Nf6 2.g3 g6 3.Bg2 c6 looks like Black wants to reach the ultra-solid ...c6 Grünfeld. Offhand I thought of 4. e4 d5 5. cd cd 6. e5 Nd7 7. d4 and 4. Nc3 d5 5. cd cd 6. Qb3 as tries by White to do better than that; I see that both have been tried (by a fellow GM) against John Nunn. On 1.c4 Nf6 2.g3 e6 3.Bg2 Be7 4. Nf3 Black is surely not going to play ...d6 and ...e5, which could result in an Old Indian a tempo down.


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raja Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 125 Location: India Joined: 11/15/10 Gender:	Re: Move oder issue with Marin's repertoire.. Reply #1 - 11/03/13 at 05:12:00	Post Tools	Print Post
	Same problem also arises after... 1.c4 Nf6 2.g3 e6 3.Bg2 Be7!? again the same dilemma of ..which knight to move... if..4.Nf3 black can play d6 and e5 and if 4.Nc3 black can play d5 and c6...and now that we already moved our knight to c3 square...b3 and Bb2 setup does not look sensible..


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raja Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 125 Location: India Joined: 11/15/10 Gender:	Move order issue with Marin's repertoire.. 11/03/13 at 04:07:55	Post Tools	Print Post
	rHi....i am having great fun studying Marins repertoire for 1.c4.....i have some issues with move oder which i found when playing in internet....i wish any other Marins followers could guide me... 1.c4 Nf6 2.g3 g6 3.Bg2 and now if black plays 3..c6!? what to do? because..white i feel white has to make the decision of which Knight to move now! if white plays 4.Nf3....black can transpose into systems with d6 and e5..where actually the Knight belongs to e2 square to form a botvinnik triangle setup and if white plays 4.Nc3..black transposes into Queens gambit systems by playing 4...d5....in which white has to play b3 ..Bb2 ..and Knight belongs to d2 square in these systems... What to do..any help is much appreciated...
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