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Re: What do Archangel players play against 5.d3?
Reply #8 - 11/15/13 at 23:55:44
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Vass I used to play like that when I played the Spanish as White, its a strange opening because there is so much theory but in the end you can kind of make it up as you go along using a reasonable basic theoretical knowledge and general strategic concepts also. My favourite opening I think for that reason.
  
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Re: What do Archangel players play against 5.d3?
Reply #7 - 11/15/13 at 19:49:21
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My preferences go for 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O b5 6.Bb3 Bb7 7.Re1 Bc5 8.c3 d6 9.d4 Bb6 10.a4
Everybody knows 7.d3 is simply equal. Well, white has some very slight chances for +=, but not much. 7.d3 is the main move nowadays just because the play is not forced and the theory is not well established.  Roll Eyes
  
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Re: What do Archangel players play against 5.d3?
Reply #6 - 11/15/13 at 09:01:36
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Very interesting, its a crazy sharp line that, I can see now why 7.d3 is getting more popular.
  
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Re: What do Archangel players play against 5.d3?
Reply #5 - 11/15/13 at 02:59:45
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Keano wrote on 11/14/13 at 13:26:26:
Things have changed since Khalifman? No doubt yes I suppose.

Can Black improve on the line 7.c3 Nxe4 8.d4 Na5 9.Nxe5 Nxb3 10.Qxb3


8...Na5 is the old main line. The New main line is
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O b5 6. Bb3 Bb7 7. c3 Nxe4 8. d4 exd4 9. Re1 d5 10. Ng5 Qf6!!
Black is at least equal in all lines and can often play for a win.
  
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Re: What do Archangel players play against 5.d3?
Reply #4 - 11/14/13 at 13:26:26
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Things have changed since Khalifman? No doubt yes I suppose.

Can Black improve on the line 7.c3 Nxe4 8.d4 Na5 9.Nxe5 Nxb3 10.Qxb3
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Re: What do Archangel players play against 5.d3?
Reply #3 - 11/13/13 at 19:27:25
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Keano wrote on 11/05/13 at 13:49:43:
BobbyDigital80 wrote on 11/05/13 at 05:11:52:
Since d3 is supposed to be the best line against the Archangel (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O b5 6. Bb3 Bb7 7. d3), what do Archangel players play against 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. d3? Do they willingly transpose into the previous line with 5... b5 6. Bb3 Bb7? This seems a strange choice to me, and if Black plays a different line, then to me it's like he's admitting the Archangel with d3 is just better for white. What do others think?


I always thought 7.c3 was the best move against the Archangel.


7.c3 is probably the easiest move for Black to face and is the move that gives him the most active play.
  
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Re: What do Archangel players play against 5.d3?
Reply #2 - 11/05/13 at 13:49:43
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BobbyDigital80 wrote on 11/05/13 at 05:11:52:
Since d3 is supposed to be the best line against the Archangel (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O b5 6. Bb3 Bb7 7. d3), what do Archangel players play against 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. d3? Do they willingly transpose into the previous line with 5... b5 6. Bb3 Bb7? This seems a strange choice to me, and if Black plays a different line, then to me it's like he's admitting the Archangel with d3 is just better for white. What do others think?


I always thought 7.c3 was the best move against the Archangel.
  
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Re: What do Archangel players play against 5.d3?
Reply #1 - 11/05/13 at 09:30:39
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No, he's just saying that once white has commited to d3 there's no motivation to stick the bishop there Smiley

You could consider Bb7 as an attempt to force white into the concession of d3.

Obviously transpose if you're very happy with it although I'd imagine most would go for Bc5 lines vs 5 d3.
  
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What do Archangel players play against 5.d3?
11/05/13 at 05:11:52
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Since d3 is supposed to be the best line against the Archangel (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O b5 6. Bb3 Bb7 7. d3), what do Archangel players play against 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. d3? Do they willingly transpose into the previous line with 5... b5 6. Bb3 Bb7? This seems a strange choice to me, and if Black plays a different line, then to me it's like he's admitting the Archangel with d3 is just better for white. What do others think?



  
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