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Re: Spanish Four Knights question
Reply #5 - 12/21/13 at 14:43:05
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Thanks for the replyes, I was not sure if white had enough compensation in this line when the c pawn was still at c7 and now I know its not the case, ot was  only an interesting stunning concept.
The book also covered an alternative line where white sacs the Bishop for a pawn,  ending  up with three powerfully pawns for the piece.

I will buy the book, I had no idea that a four knigths  line was covered there. I have some other Dangeroes Weapons books.

I also made a quick looked at the link, very intresting concept to trade both Bishops agaisnt blacks Knights and then close the position and playing to get the superior minor piece.
I will invsetigate this further.

Many thanks
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Re: Spanish Four Knights question
Reply #4 - 12/21/13 at 12:44:09
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RdC wrote on 12/20/13 at 22:12:21:
kylemeister wrote on 12/20/13 at 19:46:36:
  Not sure about 5. Nxe5 being "quieter," since it can involve White's king coming out to g3 and whatnot.


You don't have to play it  that way though 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Nd4 5. Nxe5 Qe7 6. Nf3 (instead of 6. f4) Nxb5 7. Nxb5 Qxe4+ 8. Qe2 is somewhat duller.


For 'somewhat duller', read 'very dull indeed, time for something exciting, like dying in my bed'.
  
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Re: Spanish Four Knights question
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kylemeister wrote on 12/20/13 at 19:46:36:
  Not sure about 5. Nxe5 being "quieter," since it can involve White's king coming out to g3 and whatnot.


You don't have to play it  that way though 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Nd4 5. Nxe5 Qe7 6. Nf3 (instead of 6. f4) Nxb5 7. Nxb5 Qxe4+ 8. Qe2 is somewhat duller.
  
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Re: Spanish Four Knights question
Reply #2 - 12/20/13 at 19:46:36
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I guess it's mentioning the obvious, but 5. Ba4 is the traditional main move.  Not sure about 5. Nxe5 being "quieter," since it can involve White's king coming out to g3 and whatnot.
  
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Re: Spanish Four Knights question
Reply #1 - 12/20/13 at 19:28:38
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Spanish 4N is my main choice against 1...e5.  Against the Rubinstein Counterattack, I do not like Bc4 because it is, ultimately, not sound.  White is worse with perfect play.  Obodchuk admits this where he says that he omitted the best play for both sides because if he were to publish the line, it would not be playable for White anymore.  The positive is that it looks fascinating and if your opponent has not studied it, he will have a heart attack and then lose on time.

Lakdawala's 5.Ba4 is theoretically better.  It is a good move if you are a concrete calculator and with strong defensive skills.  On the plus side, you can win a pawn, but the downside is you have to hang on and defend for ages with very strange knight maneuvers and f2-f4 and moving the king to f2 or f1.

Against Rubinstein, there are some less-explored options that are quieter and fairly simple to pick up.
(1) 5.0-0.  I like this move.  You get a kind of Philidor, Hanham position after Black plays c6, d6, Qc7.  Check out the 1.e4e5 "Dangerous Weapons" book for a full chapter on it.  Also look here:
http://www.kenilworthchessclub.org/kenilworthian/2006/07/sutovskys-anti-rubinste...
(2) 5.Nxd4.  Another move i like. 5...exd4 6.e5.  Queen trade is very probable and it is a matter of temperament whether you want to play this way.
(3) 5.Nxe5.  A move that made the limelight when Nigel Short effortless beat Erwin L'Ami and L'Ami went wrong immediately.
  

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C48-C49: Spanish Four Knights question
12/20/13 at 19:13:37
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I got a vision and bought two books about Four Knigts game, an opening I had never played before as either side.
Rigtht now I play d3  based Ruy Lopez.

One book was Four Knights Move by Move (covering all systems)  by Lakdawala and the other book was a repertour book in Spanish Four Knights by Obodchuk.

I was thinking about the Rubinsteins Nd4 variation, I clearly favor white in the alternatives.

Lakdawala recommends Ba4 and Obodchuk recommends Bc4.
Obudchuks variation seems to involve a Queen sacrife that I think looks intereting, at least at first sight.

What are the positive and negative sides of both moves?
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