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Re: Soultanbeieff Variation
Reply #8 - 03/06/17 at 15:08:34
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Looking at the sample pdf, you should be able to find coverage starting on page 17 of Complete Slav II
  
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Re: Soultanbeieff Variation
Reply #7 - 03/06/17 at 13:55:17
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Apart from ChessPublishing, are there any books that cover this line with 6.e3? All I've found so far is a brief note in Soltis' Transpo Tricks. Kaufman and Schandorff mention 5...e6 in their White repertoire books but recommend 6.e4. The position after 6.Bg5 is covered in Semi-Slav books because it's a sideline of the Botvinnik. But my (elderly) Slav books don't mention 5...e6 at all. I suppose Sakaev has it - if you can find the relevant page?
  
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Re: Soultanbeieff Variation
Reply #6 - 03/04/17 at 00:45:47
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You would have to add the 3 Nf3 Nf6 4 Qc2 stuff of course, but yeah, that looks like a reasonable repertoire.
  
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Re: Soultanbeieff Variation
Reply #5 - 02/25/17 at 22:59:10
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Found this old discussion of the Soultanbeieff and the articles on the main site from March 2016 and Nov 2015. I played the Slav with Bf5 but find the e6-variation very interesting. You avoid a lot of theory and seem to get solid positions which still contain some potential. Am I missing something or is the following already a nice small but complete repertoire to replace the dutch and Ne5 slav lines?

In the position at the beginning of this discussion after 5. a4 e6 white has three main lines: All seem to be slightly worse than their counterparts from the queens gambit accepted (QGA):

a) 6. e3 c5  7. Bxc4 Nc6  8. 0-0 cxd4  9. exd4 (or Nxd4 Bd7) Be7 is a classic isolated queens pawn position. Compared to the QGA-line whites pawn is on a4 so that the common a3 to take away the b4-square from the black knight is not available.

b) 6. Bg5 Bb4  7. e4 Bxc3+ (alternative is b5) 8. bxc3 Qa5 which is possible here but not in the corresponding QGA-line where a pawn is still on c7. Now 9. e5 Ne4 and black seems to be fine after e.g. 10. Bd2 Qd5

c) 6. e4 Bb4  7. e5 (Bg5 transposes to line b) Ne4  8. Qc2 and again Qa5 is available here but not in the QGA-line. White can sac a pawn with 9. Bxc4 and black gets a passive but solid position or go for the wilder 9. Qxe4 Bxc3  10. Nd2 (Kd1 Lb4 was also played) Bxb2  11. Bxb2 c3

If that works, it would really be a quite compact replacement for the mainline slav. Add something to it for
A) the exchange slav: I go for the 6. Bf4 Ne4 lines to create some asymmetry
B) the gambits without 6. a4 (6. e3 and 6. e4)
C) the lines with e3 in move 3 or 4 which all can be answered with Bf5

and it would be a complete repertoire against d4+c4. Does someone see a big problem with the e6-line and this repertoire?

Last remark: Of course variation C means that you are willing to play the Glasgow-Kiss gambit 3. Nc3 Nf6  4. e3 Bf5  5. cxd5 cxd5  6. Qb3 Nc6!?  7. Qxb7 Bd7  which e.g. Avruch covered in his slav-book on 20 pages. Mainline is 8. Qb3 Rb8  9. Qd1 e5. But the alternative would be to add a big block of well established theory with e.g. a6-slav lines.
  

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Re: Soultanbeieff Variation
Reply #4 - 05/22/14 at 08:15:49
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Benoniac wrote on 02/20/14 at 23:51:14:
Seems a bit hard to believe that the move a4 hurts white after the natural 6.e3. Or?


Were it be a semi-slav (the triangle structure without dxc4), a4 would be a major hole in white's position. Overall in the 'classical' lines of the Slav, the hole on b4 is complex matter, as Black is betting a lot on this square for long-term counterplay, while sucking up white's pressure.

But recently, there has been tries to exploit this hole to hold on to the c4 pawn as soon as possible to take over the initiative on the queenside. The most famous line is the Noteboom, reached from a semi-slav structure (1. d5 2. e6 3. c6 4. dxc4 without Nf6), but you can get similar positions from a Slav or a QGA (and even a Nimzo as the last Mamedyarov-Carlsen game showed, if I recall well). These positions are very intriguing (you take the pawn to fight for the initiative, you can sack the exchange early for development) and rather confusing.
  
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Re: Soultanbeieff Variation
Reply #3 - 02/21/14 at 00:17:27
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Of course this has somewhat caught on in recent years.  A decade ago, ECO had 5...e6 as "?!" and just stopped after 6. e3 with += according to Miles.
  
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Re: Soultanbeieff Variation
Reply #2 - 02/20/14 at 23:51:14
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quote author=0C1D121A0E5C0 link=1391956021/1#1 date=1392918804]Fairly good for Black. This is a QG accepted, with an extra move for white. The extra move (pawn is on a4 instead of a2) does more harm than good, though. [/quote]

Seems a bit hard to believe that the move a4 hurts white after the natural 6.e3. Or?



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Re: Soultanbeieff Variation
Reply #1 - 02/20/14 at 17:53:24
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Fairly good for Black. This is a QG accepted, with an extra move for white. The extra move (pawn is on a4 instead of a2) does more harm than good, though.
  
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Soultanbeieff Variation
02/09/14 at 14:27:01
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Hi,
What is the current status of the Soultanbeieff Variation (only name I found for 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dxc4 5.a4 e6)?

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The way I understand it Black is trying to get a QGA-isolani (after 6.e3) or an kind of Noteboom (after 6.e4) avoiding all kinds of annoying sidelines (such as the queen swaps in the QGA). Is it all right?

Thanks!
  
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