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Re: New Open Games Book
Reply #47 - 12/22/15 at 07:25:49
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Pleased to see he has consulted the first edition of Bilguer's Handbook (1843). My Victorian repertoire could be making a comeback!
  

Those who want to go by my perverse footsteps play such pawn structure with fuzzy atypical still strategic orientations

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, stuck in the middlegame with you
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Reply #46 - 03/30/15 at 21:46:43
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Hahaha, hello. Yeah, it is a draw!  Smiley
  
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Reply #45 - 03/30/15 at 12:37:34
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Hi Ametanoitos,

is there any progress after 2 weeks? Black position is quite solid, isn't it?
  
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Reply #44 - 03/14/15 at 16:54:47
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Your line doesn't seem forced. It is not hard for me to imagine getting into a position which the PC evaluates as equal but in reality Black is very passive and White will find a way to improve his position (like many instances of a double rook endgame after the c6-pawn and queens get gine out of the board).

As i don't have access right now to the analysis of this game (done by me quite a looong ago Smiley )i might be able to answer to you in a couple of days about that line in general.
  
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Reply #43 - 03/14/15 at 14:25:41
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Its hard to imagine that black should have problems after

26. Rbd1 Nf6 27. Ne5 Qxc5 28. Nxd7 Nxd7 29. Qxd7 c6 30. Rc1 Qd5 31. Qg7 Rbd8
32. g3 f4 33. Qc3 fxg3 34. hxg3 Rhf8 35. Qxc6+ Qxc6 36. Rxc6 Rf7 37. Rb1 Rb8
38. Rxb8+ Kxb8 39. f4 Rc7 =

Maybe in OTB black would solve some problems in this 14.Bd3 line but theoreticaly/in corr game black is OK!?

  
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Reply #42 - 03/14/15 at 12:26:53
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After 26.Rbd1 i predict quite some suffering for Black, but most probably indeed he might be able to draw (i guess!)
  
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Reply #41 - 03/14/15 at 09:47:58
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Ametanoitos wrote on 10/06/14 at 01:41:06:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nxc6 bxc6 6. e5 Qe7 7. Qe2 Nd5 8.c4 Nb6 9. Nc3 Bb7 10. Bd2 g6 11. Ne4 O-O-O 12. a4 Ba6 13. Qf3 Re8 14. Bd3 Bxc4
15. O-O Bxd3 16. Qxd3 Qxe5 17. Qa6+ Kb8 18. Bc3 Qxe4 19. Rfe1 Qxe1+ 20. Bxe1 Rg8 21. g3 Re6 22. Bc3 Bd6 23. a5 Nc8 24. Rd1 Ka8 25. Bd4 c5 26. Be3 Ne7 27.
Qc4 Nc6 28. a6 Ne5 29. Qc3 Rge8 30. Kg2 Nc6 31. Bxc5 Bxc5 32. Qxc5 Nb8 33. Ra1 Rc6 34. Qb5 Rb6 35. Qd5+ c6 36. Qxf7 Re2 37. b3 g5 38. Qh5 Rc2 39. Qxh7 Rc5 40.
Qg8 Rd5 41. h4 gxh4 42. g4 Rb4 43. Rf1 Ra5 44. f4 Ra3 45. Kh3 Rbxb3+ 46. Kxh4 Rh3+ 47. Kg5 Ra5+ 48. f5 Rb5 49. Kg6 Rg3 50. Rf4 Rd5 51. f6

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Quite interesting game. I have no doubts that you analyzed this line in depth, but lets try to help to black little bit.

I offer to follow corr game Anokhin-Korzh -
14..Bg7 15.0-0 Bxe5 16.c5 Bxd3 17.Qxd3 Nd5 18.Rae1 and now I propose novelty

18...Kb8 ( actually 18..f5 19.Ng5 Qg7 was played... 1-0 in 39 moves)
Now after moreless forced sequence 19.b4 f5 20.Ng5 Qf6 21.b5 Bf4 22.bxc6 Qxc6 23.Rb1 Ka8 24.Nf3 Bxd2 25.Qxd2 Rb8 and black is quite solid and white has just compensation for a pawn enough for equality.

Are you able to improve white play somewhere between move 15-25?

  
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Reply #40 - 03/04/15 at 00:39:50
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The variation I found unconvinincing is:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Bb4 5. O-O O-O 6. d3 Bxc3 7. bxc3 d6 8. Bg5 h6 9. Bh4 Bd7 10. Re1 a6 11. Bc4 Na5 12. Bb3 Re8 13. h3 Qe7 14. Nd2 b5 15.
Nf1 Nxb3 16. axb3 c5 17. d4 g5 followed by Rad8.

That's Bologan's recommendation for black against the subvariation of a subvariation, so it's very unimportant. I don't like the final position at all though. All the weaknesses are in black's camp. The PC gives white +0.70 after 18. Bg3.

  
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Reply #39 - 02/27/15 at 15:59:05
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Hi Gorath,

would you be so kind to share with us which recommendation against the 4Kn doesn´t look convincing to you? I´m just curious Wink

Thank you in advance...
  
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Reply #38 - 02/26/15 at 18:37:36
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I have to scale down my praise for Bologan's book a bit. It seems openings like the Four Knights and the Vienna with 3.f4 didn't receive as much attention as the sharper openings.
I found one very strange recommendation in the 4Kn. which doesn't look convincing at all.
In the Vienna he claims that at a critical point the Greek gift does not work and offers a quite long variation. His conclusion seems correct to me, although it's not a trivial case, but his variation is flawed because Bologan ignores the computer's clear first recommendation for the attacker a couple of moves in, which leads to a position which can only be better for white. An earlier deviation should solve this though.
  
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Re: New Open Games Book
Reply #37 - 02/18/15 at 15:39:38
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I've used Bologan's book for youth training. Guess I've worked through close to 100 pages now, selected chapters. Checked all variations with the computer, if necessary until depth 27, then I compared his recommendations with other current sources (Kaufman, Sielecki on YouTube, a couple of ChessStars books by Sakaev and others). After doing this for a couple of chapters I stopped checking the other sources. Outside of the rare sidelines it wasn't worth the effort.

I think Bologan's book is outstanding for players up to 2300. Apart from some layout related decisions his book is simply superb. Exactly the correct amount of details and very aggressive chess. He puts a huge amount of pressure on white in risky openings.
I didn't find a single refuted line so far. In couple of instances he prefared one type of +1.5 to other source's different type of +2. Which basically means he chose only the computer's 2nd or 3rd best move, but that's okay for me. I actually want him to make choices.

For GM level or correspondence chess you need something else, of course. But AFAIK a deeper book on e4-e5 without the RL is not available at this point.
  
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Re: New Open Games Book
Reply #36 - 02/04/15 at 15:14:45
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I read the samples and I can say I like the style that it is written but also I have told that is has some flaws for someone who will look at chess databases,ofcourse do not ask  me about this I did not take so close read.
Has anyone took a closer read at this book,it is worth to read?
  
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Re: New Open Games Book
Reply #35 - 10/10/14 at 09:01:26
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I don't really see anything wrong with the book structure. It has all the relevant chapters with good verbal explanation. The game references are very good, without wasting space. And while the naming of pieces and maneuvers might seem like overkill if you read them all in the introductory chapter, they are proving helpful when you are learning a specific line. Of course, if you play serious correspondence chess and rely solely on one repertoire book, you will run into trouble with black.

The line Ametanoitos apparently refuted is a part of a line which Bologan himself confesses to have doubts in, and he gives two major alternatives (9...Qe6, 4. ...Bc5). I like the fact that the book is full of lines that you don't find in any repertoire books for black.
  
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Re: New Open Games Book
Reply #34 - 10/09/14 at 08:48:58
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rossia wrote on 10/09/14 at 05:00:55:
Ametanoitos wrote on 10/08/14 at 17:57:51:
So, you missed the point and you keep insulting me. Never mind...whatever!


No Greek author, no, I'm not insulting you cause I have your coauthors books on GM Tarrasch and Playing the French  Kiss

But I don't like your tone over Bologan... Cool


That's why i said that you missed the point. I admire Bologan, we were also team-mates in Greece. My critisism was about the book structure which i didn't like, and this has nothing to do with Bologan himself, but with the novel editors' idea. Also, it is quite difficult to understand the tone of someone from a foroum, isn't it?
  
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Re: New Open Games Book
Reply #33 - 10/09/14 at 07:15:06
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rossia wrote on 10/08/14 at 09:58:05:
I can also hit shift+f2  Cheesy


Does that do anything? I usually use ALT+F2 Wink
  

blog inspired by Bronstein's book, but using my own games: http://200opengames.blogspot.co.uk/
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