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Poll Question: What is Black's best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
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3...e6    
  2 (6.1%)
3...c5    
  15 (45.5%)
3...Bf5    
  5 (15.2%)
3...Bg4    
  4 (12.1%)
3...g6    
  5 (15.2%)
3...c6    
  1 (3.0%)
Other    
  1 (3.0%)




Total votes: 33
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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #11 - 06/28/14 at 23:25:43
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barnaby wrote on 06/28/14 at 23:13:08:
Anonymous3 wrote on 06/28/14 at 23:09:23:
Bibs wrote on 06/28/14 at 22:53:41:
dfan wrote on 06/28/14 at 22:26:09:
Does "This question is meaningless" fall under "Other"?

A3 has a history of such questions, sadly.

Should Moderators be stricter? Should the more obviously ridiculous questions (there have been several of late) be deleted?
Questions about move 3 and 4 appear unhelpful. The whole 'most quiet, solid' thing was particularly dreary.
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I don't think the question is meaningless or obviously ridiculous. Questions about move 3 and 4 can be very helpful. Deciding what line to play against an opening is important. 


Seems like a question like this better posed on a site such as chess.com because its really just an opinion poll and has nothing to do with advancing current chess opening theory.



This seems about right. Not chess THEORY really is it? Perhaps the non-theory questions could be deleted and we can kindly direct people to chess.com.

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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #10 - 06/28/14 at 23:23:05
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Anonymous3 wrote on 06/28/14 at 23:09:23:
I don't think the question is meaningless or obviously ridiculous.

I do. I wouldn't mind it if the question was something like "What move do you play in this situation and why?". That could lead to an interesting discussion. The idea that one of the moves is somehow "best" is indeed ridiculous, though.
  
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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #9 - 06/28/14 at 23:13:08
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Anonymous3 wrote on 06/28/14 at 23:09:23:
Bibs wrote on 06/28/14 at 22:53:41:
dfan wrote on 06/28/14 at 22:26:09:
Does "This question is meaningless" fall under "Other"?

A3 has a history of such questions, sadly.

Should Moderators be stricter? Should the more obviously ridiculous questions (there have been several of late) be deleted?
Questions about move 3 and 4 appear unhelpful. The whole 'most quiet, solid' thing was particularly dreary.
What do members think?

I don't think the question is meaningless or obviously ridiculous. Questions about move 3 and 4 can be very helpful. Deciding what line to play against an opening is important. 


Seems like a question like this better posed on a site such as chess.com because its really just an opinion poll and has nothing to do with advancing current chess opening theory.

  
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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #8 - 06/28/14 at 23:09:23
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Bibs wrote on 06/28/14 at 22:53:41:
dfan wrote on 06/28/14 at 22:26:09:
Does "This question is meaningless" fall under "Other"?

A3 has a history of such questions, sadly.

Should Moderators be stricter? Should the more obviously ridiculous questions (there have been several of late) be deleted?
Questions about move 3 and 4 appear unhelpful. The whole 'most quiet, solid' thing was particularly dreary.
What do members think?

I don't think the question is meaningless or obviously ridiculous. Questions about move 3 and 4 can be very helpful. Deciding what line to play against an opening is important. 
  
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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #7 - 06/28/14 at 22:53:41
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dfan wrote on 06/28/14 at 22:26:09:
Does "This question is meaningless" fall under "Other"?


A3 has a history of such questions, sadly.

Should Moderators be stricter? Should the more obviously ridiculous questions (there have been several of late) be deleted?
Questions about move 3 and 4 appear unhelpful. The whole 'most quiet, solid' thing was particularly dreary.
What do members think?
  
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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #6 - 06/28/14 at 22:26:09
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Does "This question is meaningless" fall under "Other"?
  
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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #5 - 06/28/14 at 22:07:25
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I have no idea which one is best but I usually play c5 in a situation like this and try to counter attack on b2.  I like playing with an initiative as Black and sometimes i can get that type of position on the board with c5.
  
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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #4 - 06/28/14 at 22:02:31
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I think 3...c5 might be the move too most disrupt a "d-pawn" specialists plans.  Black can still choose between moving the light squared Bishop before ...e6 or a ...g6 system.  Of course all the moves are very playable and each probably has their own list of advantages and disadvantages.
  
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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #3 - 06/28/14 at 21:19:46
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I think the OP needs to keep buying repertoire books (maybe 6 at a time) until one of those has a majority.  Then we can go back to move 2 and 1 ...

BTW, 3...Bf5 is one of the old main book moves.
  
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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #2 - 06/28/14 at 21:18:12
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I would think the answer would heavily depend on what openings you normally play and which positions you prefer....and your opponent.
  

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Re: Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
Reply #1 - 06/28/14 at 21:14:31
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I didn't vote "the best" but "my favorite" as I don't think I can judge the objective quality of the moves. I prefer 3...c5 in order to delay blocking my LSB. 3...Bf5 was a sideline when "Dealing with d4 deviations" was written as far as I know but has tons of theory now (thanks to Avrukh I think). g6 is probably mainly interesting for players generally chosing fianchetto defences (not me) and I never considered 3...Bg4 to be honest ...
  
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Best response after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3
06/28/14 at 21:02:31
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Vote for what you think Black's best response is after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e3.

3...e6 is recommended in "How to Beat 1.d4" and "GM Repertoire Beating 1.d4 Sidelines"
3...c5 is recommended in "The Chess Advantage in Black and White" and mentioned in "GM Repertoire Beating 1.d4 Sidelines" as another possibility
3...Bf5 is recommended in "Dealing with d4 Deviations" and mentioned in  "The Chess Advantage in Black and White" as another possibility
3...Bg4 is recommended in "How to Succeed in the Queen's Pawn Openings" and mentioned in  "The Chess Advantage in Black and White" as another possibility
3...g6 is recommended in "How to Succeed in the Queen's Pawn Openings" and mentioned in  "The Chess Advantage in Black and White" as another possibility
3...c6 is given in "Dealing with d4 Deviations" as another possibility
  
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