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Re: C08: A forgotten line against the Classical
Reply #5 - 03/06/15 at 22:57:34
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Agreed.  That Blitz game I mention got  me wondering if that old line is touted in the latest greatest opening memoir  "Nuke the French"   Grin

IMO Harding's Classical French is the "Bible:  if you play the classical. (as I do)  The guy played the 6.Bd3 line deep (in quick succession)


1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.Bxf6 Bxf6 6.Nf3 0-0 7.e5 Be7 8.Bd3 c5 9.dxc5 Bxc5 10.Qd2 Nc6 11. 0-0-0 = (I played right out of Harding's book just feeling my way... IMO kinda standard opening moves by Black are they not?

Even though Black equalizes...  The position is easy for white to whip up an attack against  Black's castled King. (probably why it was popular in the 1930's ) 



  
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Re: C08: A forgotten line against the Classical
Reply #4 - 03/06/15 at 16:36:15
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In the Anderssen, 6. Nf3 and 6. e5 Be7 7. Qg4 are the old lines I recall, with the latter perhaps being inferior.  After 6. Nf3 I recall some books preferring 6...c5 to steer clear of such stuff as Bd3/e5/h4/Bxh7+. 
  
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Re: C08: A forgotten line against the Classical
Reply #3 - 03/06/15 at 11:36:08
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What about Anderson's old line  (popular back in the 1930's  I think?) ... Just had it played against me in an internet Blitz game.

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.Bxf6 Bxf6
6.Qg4
6.Nf3;
6.Bd3

Usual plan for white is to castle long and do a banzai charge at the Black King (if he castles short) 



  
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Re: C08: A forgotten line against the Classical
Reply #2 - 07/14/14 at 13:34:30
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Re: A forgotten line against the Classical
Reply #1 - 07/14/14 at 11:07:44
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Hi alnilam,

welcome to the forum.

We discussed the Gledhill attack partly in the following thread:
http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1205261628

  
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C08: A forgotten line against the Classical
07/13/14 at 12:48:15
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I have for sometime now been persevering with a line against the French Classical which Tim Harding described as obsolete some 35 years ago. The analysis has been mostly from blitz games on the net refined by a chess engine.

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.Qg4 (This is the Gledhill Variation, which if not quite sound can set problems for the unwary.)… c5

[5...f5 6.Qg3 c5 7.Nb5 cxd4 (7...Nc6 8.Nd6+ Bxd6 9.Qxg7 Bxe5 10.dxe5 Rf8 11.Be2 Ncxe5 12.Bh5+ Nf7 13.Bg5+-) 8.Be2 g6 9.Nf3 Nc6 10.Nfxd4 Nxd4 11.Nxd4 Qb6 12.Be3 Qxb2 13.0–0 with good play) Also the ‘useful’ 5…a6 loses a pawn to 6 Bg5

6.Nf3 (6 dxc5 is worth exploring)… Nc6 [This is the most plausible move but the simple 6...cxd4! gives Black the more pleasant game for instance 7.Nb5 Nc6 8.Bf4 (8.Qg3 a6 9.Nbxd4 Ndxe5!) 8...a6 9.Nbxd4 h5 10.Qg3 Nc5 11.Bd3 Nxd3+ 12.cxd3 Nxd4 13.Nxd4 h4 14.Qg4 h3]

7.dxc5 Ndxe5 8.Nxe5 Nxe5 9.Qg3 Ng6?! [9...f6! 10.Be3 Kf7 11.0–0–0 Qa5 12.f4 Nc6 13.Qf2 b6 14.Bc4 dxc4 15.Qf3 is roughly equal; 9...Nc6? 10.Nb5 e5 11.Nd6+ Bxd6 12.Qxg7 Rf8 13.cxd6 Be6 (13...Qxd6 14.Bh6) 14.Bh6 Qa5+ 15.Bd2 Qc5 16.Qf6]

10.Nb5! [10.Bg5 is not quite accurate but was the seductive lure when I first played this line…Qa5? {This error occurred frequently in  3 min games on the net- a number leading to the mate that follows-, but of course 10…f6 is less fun} 11.b4! Qxb4 12.Rb1 Qxc5 13.Bb5+ Bd7 14.Bxd7+ Kxd7 15.Rxb7+ Ke8 (15...Kc8 16.Rxf7) 16.Nb5 Qc6 (16...Qb4+ 17.Kd1 Qb1+ 18.Bc1) 17.Qb8+ Rxb8 18.Rxb8+ Kd7 19.Rd8# ]

10...e5 11.h4 h5 12.Bg5 f6 [12...Be7 13.Nd6+ Kf8 14.0–0–0 Qa5 15.Qb3] 13.0–0–0! Be6 [13...fxg5 14.Rxd5! Bd7 15.Bd3 Nxh4 16.Rxh4; 13...Kf7 14.Bc4 Be6 15.Bxd5 Bxd5 16.Nd6+ Bxd6 17.Rxd5 fxg5 18.Rxd6 Qe8] 14.Bd3 Kf7 15.Rhe1 With a dangerous initiative.

Any feedback on this line would be most appreciated.





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