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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #18 - 02/22/15 at 02:38:01
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The Dragon is a great opening for club players when you get to play Dragons.  Unfortunately, 2...d6 isn't the ideal move against the 50% of club players who play moves other than 2 Nf3 and 3 d4.

This is a major reason I switched from 2...d6 Sicilians to the Taimanov years ago.  Too many people playing lines where ...d6 wasn't a move I needed very badly.

That said, the Yugoslav Attack is one of the most fascinating lines in this game, and every other line against the Dragon is just fine for Black; the active development of the bishop really only has the one drawback, and that's the possibility of h2-h4-h5xg6.
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #17 - 11/20/14 at 22:52:25
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Whoops, yes i must be thinking of the one he wrote with Nielsen.

I had thought he had worked with Donaldsen on an updated version of the Silman & Donaldson book, but the book he wrote with Donaldsen was the strategic opening repertoire. Apologies all for any confusion.
  

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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #16 - 11/20/14 at 19:35:59
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There was also an AD book by Hansen and Nielsen.
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #15 - 11/20/14 at 19:23:35
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Are you thinking of "Accelerated Dragon" by Donaldson and Silman, maybe?
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #14 - 11/19/14 at 22:42:58
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If the move by move book is still coming out, i would guess it would be on the Accelerated Dragon...hasnt Hansen written a book on that before (with Donaldsen?)
  

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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #13 - 11/07/14 at 21:25:19
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Vigorito's book has 25 pages on the Chinese Dragon alone, with some lines going beyond move 30, including a Carlsen game. More than enough for an amateur like me, and I think the book is excellent.
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #12 - 10/02/14 at 07:48:37
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I don not remember exactly all parts but as I recall it that book was a must to keep up in the critical lines but did not have a compete coverage of every line.
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #11 - 09/29/14 at 09:33:25
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Hello Bragesjo, you said that Vigorito's book is a must-buy book, I could just read a bit of the Chinese Dragon chapter and it seemed very light to me, the analysis are very short.

Is there a part of the book you find very good? Have you read the Chinese part?

Thanks for your response
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #10 - 09/04/14 at 19:37:38
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For my part it looks a bit illogical to write a Move by Move book with such a theory demanding opening but I will definitely buy this book.

Speaking of intro book, there was a book that I actually liked that was called "Secrets of the Sicilian Dragon" by Gufeld and Schiller.
Generally I dont like any of these authors book but that book was actually good, it was a excellent idea book. Time passed and Gufeld died and Schiller realized a 2nd edition. However that book did not cover new thematical ideas and new lines that had been develop the decade (at least) between them and he had replaced some parts of the book but not done anything to the ideas and thematical parts.
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #9 - 09/04/14 at 09:18:36
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Dan at everyman confirmed the rumour. Book due in Spring. I seem to recall that Hansen has written books for Gambit in the past and if memory serves me right he is a diligent author. Perhaps surprising that a new book is coming out so soon after the chess developments book. Hopefully he will not try and cover older lines which are inferior or not played much these days. I would like to see him mainly focus on the lines that have been popular in 2013 and 2014. It would also be helpful if he can present a few well played model games from which those new to the dragon can pick up the main ideas.
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #8 - 09/03/14 at 21:45:29
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No idea. But from my database, Carsten Hansen hasn't played a Dragon game since the early 90's.  Sad
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #7 - 09/03/14 at 20:56:46
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There are rumours going round that Everyman are planning a Sicilian Dragon Move by Move book next year I think the author is Carsten Hansen.

Is this true?
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #6 - 09/03/14 at 13:12:13
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I would prefer Nielsen's by far - he's a top-tier player who's played the Dragon in some pretty high-profile games. His wife, Victoria Cmilyte, is a well-known Dragon expert as well (iirc). I have the DVDs and like them a lot. Williams might be a more entertaining lecturer, but for something as theoretical as the Dragon, I'd rather have an expert. Nielsen is great too, as long as you can tolerate his overuse of the word, "well".
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #5 - 09/03/14 at 08:25:59
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Unfortunately I have not looked the DVDs, I switched main defence from Dragon shortly before Nielsens DVD was realised.

I can however recommend the subscription part of this site to keep up with latest development and all older games are also avalible.
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #4 - 09/01/14 at 20:53:54
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Thank you for the helpful comments.

The chess developments book is my main reference. As I like watching DVD's and it appears the ones on the Dragon are pretty good. What do you think is the best set of DVDs on the Dragon- Williams or Nielsen? The samples I have seen and the various comments I have seen on this forum suggest that both are good. Is Williams more inspirational and Nielsen provide more detail?
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #3 - 09/01/14 at 06:12:20
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Dearings book is very good but several lines are out of date.
Chess Developments: the Sicilian Dragon is a must for any seriois Dragon player.

Also doent forget to prepare for anti sicilians.
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #2 - 08/29/14 at 15:02:17
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I think that if you're willing to put in the effort, there are few better openings for club players. To actually mate a good Dragon player as Black is tough, and when I was playing it, I was winning a lot of games simply by refuting the same over-ambitious attacks. I cannot count how many games I won after either of these:





I think both are from Dearing's old but wonderful book. My copy is a shame to look at, but has served me well over the years.
  
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Re: Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
Reply #1 - 08/29/14 at 10:46:02
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Anon wrote on 08/29/14 at 04:52:33:
I suspect at club level a working knowledge of the main lines and understanding of themes and typical tactics might suffice.


Club players of a hacking disposition will know the typical Yugoslav attack ideas. Whilst in many openings, not knowing the theory response will just leave the defender with a worse position, in the Dragon, it's probably mate. The same can apply to allowing the Marshall in the Spanish.
  
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Introduction to Dragon for 2100 rated player
08/29/14 at 04:52:33
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Do you think that Williams DVD or the Nielsen ones are a better introduction to the Dragon from both an instructive perspective and enjoyment perspective? I don't own either and am wondering what readers think. My impression from reading the forum is Nielsen is probably more thorough and up to date in relation to main lines. From what I have seen of Williams he is enjoyable to listen too.

Second question- do you think Dragon is suitable for club players. I was tempted to say no because of the amount of theory involved- but one could almost say that about many other openings. I suspect at club level a working knowledge of the main lines and understanding of themes and typical tactics might suffice.

  
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