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raja Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 125 Location: India Joined: 11/15/10 Gender:	Re: Move oder problem in Marins Repertoire! Reply #5 - 10/18/14 at 17:12:24	Post Tools	Print Post
	Just now i checked 1.c4 e5 2.g3 f5 variation...in that variation the Bishop goes to e2 planning the break g4....but in dutch its already at g2 so it doesnt transpose


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raja Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 125 Location: India Joined: 11/15/10 Gender:	Re: Move oder problem in Marins Repertoire! Reply #4 - 10/18/14 at 17:02:54	Post Tools	Print Post
	tony37 wrote on 10/18/14 at 16:44:55: maybe Marin had 1.c4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 e5 4.d4 in mind, which should be compared with his recommended 1.c4 e5 2.g3 f5 3.d4 Thank you...it seems you are right


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tony37 God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 619 Joined: 10/16/10	Re: Move oder problem in Marins Repertoire! Reply #3 - 10/18/14 at 16:44:55	Post Tools	Print Post
	maybe Marin had 1.c4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 e5 4.d4 in mind, which should be compared with his recommended 1.c4 e5 2.g3 f5 3.d4


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raja Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 125 Location: India Joined: 11/15/10 Gender:	Re: Move oder problem in Marins Repertoire! Reply #2 - 10/18/14 at 15:58:00	Post Tools	Print Post
	NO he doesnt cover that in first book( which deals with 1.c4 e5).In first book he suggests to play 1.c4 e5 2.g3 Nc6 3.Nc3! and not 3.Bg2? only to avoid that variation..... because after 3.Nc3! f5 can be met with 4.Nf3 and d4 but in this case the g2 square is vacant that is why it works....but in the dutch move oder the g2 square is occupied by Bishop g2 so that variation can no longer be employed....


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ErictheRed God Member Offline USCF National Master Posts: 2534 Location: USA Joined: 10/02/05	Re: Move oder problem in Marins Repertoire! Reply #1 - 10/18/14 at 15:40:23	Post Tools	Print Post
	I'm just going to guess that Marin covers this via the 1.c4 e5 move order.


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raja Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 125 Location: India Joined: 11/15/10 Gender:	Move oder problem in Marins Repertoire! 10/18/14 at 14:27:47	Post Tools	Print Post
	Marin gives 1c4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 e6 Problem is instead of 3.e6 which can be answered with 4.Nf3 stopping e5 ideas....black can play...e5! rightaway and now white is out moveodered it seems... because after 3.....e5 white can not play the intended Nf3 and d4 setup because the Bishop is already misplaced in g2...and if white tries to transpose into the botvinnik system with 4.Nc3 Nc6 white doesnt seems to have any more useful waiting moves..since d3 allowed Bb4 which is not covered in the book... any suggestion?


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