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Re: Move oder problem in Marins Repertoire!
Reply #5 - 10/18/14 at 17:12:24
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Just now i checked 1.c4 e5 2.g3 f5 variation...in that variation the Bishop goes to e2 planning the break g4....but in dutch its already at g2 so it doesnt transpose Sad Sad
  
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Reply #4 - 10/18/14 at 17:02:54
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tony37 wrote on 10/18/14 at 16:44:55:
maybe Marin had 1.c4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 e5 4.d4 in mind, which should be compared with his recommended 1.c4 e5 2.g3 f5 3.d4


Thank you...it seems you are right Smiley
  
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Reply #3 - 10/18/14 at 16:44:55
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maybe Marin had 1.c4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 e5 4.d4 in mind, which should be compared with his recommended 1.c4 e5 2.g3 f5 3.d4
  
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Re: Move oder problem in Marins Repertoire!
Reply #2 - 10/18/14 at 15:58:00
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NO he doesnt cover that in first book( which deals with 1.c4 e5).In first book he suggests to play 1.c4 e5 2.g3 Nc6 3.Nc3! and not 3.Bg2? only to avoid that variation.....

because after 3.Nc3! f5 can be met with 4.Nf3 and d4 but in this case the g2 square is vacant that is why it works....but in the dutch move oder the g2 square is occupied by Bishop g2 so that variation can no longer be employed....
  
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Re: Move oder problem in Marins Repertoire!
Reply #1 - 10/18/14 at 15:40:23
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I'm just going to guess that Marin covers this via the 1.c4 e5 move order.
  
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Move oder problem in Marins Repertoire!
10/18/14 at 14:27:47
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Marin gives 1c4 f5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 e6

Problem is  instead of 3.e6 which can be answered with 4.Nf3 stopping e5 ideas....black can play...e5! rightaway and  now white is out  moveodered it seems...

because after 3.....e5 white can not play the intended Nf3 and d4 setup because the Bishop is already misplaced in g2...and if white tries to transpose into the botvinnik system with 4.Nc3 Nc6 white doesnt seems to have any more useful waiting moves..since d3 allowed Bb4 which is not covered in the book... any suggestion? Smiley
  
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