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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #12 - 06/01/20 at 22:13:28
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By the way, the 5th edition is now available on Forward Chess. They have a special: only $11.99. I just got it, great deal!
  
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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #11 - 05/24/20 at 21:46:05
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I hope they can change the lightgrey background of the important endgames before the book goes to the printer.

Right now judging from the excerpt it looks very messy, just putting the lightgrey background only around the words so the lightgrey area does not look uniform but jumps around.

It is a great idea to avoid the blue letter printing problem, but I think it would be better to search for a cleaner looking solution.
  
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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #10 - 05/04/20 at 16:03:05
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We'll have an extended excerpt (Spielmann-Rubinstein, St Petersburg 1909) in the July Chess Life, along with a discussion of the revision process, what it was like to work with Dvoretsky and what it's like to work on the book after his death, etc.

I asked Russell if I could share some of what he sent me about the changes - I have a copy of the new edition I'm looking it, but his summaries are better - and he said yes. From those materials:

1.      The fifth edition (DEM5) has 440 pages, 16 more than the fourth edition. The increase reflects the new material which has been added. Actually, the new material is more than 16 pages, as all the prior forewords and introductions have been removed, except for Dvoretsky’s “From the Author” from the first edition. A new foreword by Kramnik and a new introduction by Müller are each one page.
2.      There is a new forward by Vladimir Kramnik.
3.      The revision has been done by German GM Karsten Müller. With the passing of Mark Dvoretsky, Karsten has been generally recognized as the premier endgame analyst and theoretician in the world today.
4.      American GM Alex Fishbein assisted Karsten.
5.      There have been new developments in several areas of theory (e.g., Bishop Endgames), and these were added.
6.      Karsten and Alex have gone through the existing text of DEM4 very carefully, making minor changes and corrections throughout. New diagrams have been added, some have been removed. The complex indexing systems put in place by Dvoretsky have been modified accordingly.
7.      The blue text in previous editions has been replaced by normal text highlighted with a light gray background.

Most important changes from Müller

More Vancura type defenses in rook endings by L'Ami and Giri

The whole Kantorovich / Stecker discussion is now better structured by Alex Fishbein (e.g. new defenses by Aagaard and L'Ami)

New amazing discoveries in the famous Spielmann vs Rubinstein rook endgame. The god of rook endings Rubinstein has made one mistake: 12...Re7?

The discussion of the Philidor position (9-17a This diagram was added) is now clearer with more diagrams as it is so important. Philidor's second defensive method (I usually call it Karstedt's defense in my works) is now clearer.

(We keep Dvoretsky's terms but add other terme, e.g. for shouldering, whic I call bodycheck in my works. So we add the term so that readers are not confused when the study DEM and later one of my books or DVDs)

In the knight endgame chapter there were many new discoverys, e.g. in the very famous Lasker vs Nimzovich (3-7) and we put the 4 vs 3 case on the kingside now only as good winning chances (not as usually winning as previously) and highlighted also drawing scenarios

Bähr's rule in Dvorestky's formulation (1-126) is now clearer formulated and the exceptions mentioned. This by the way was not easy to do. Almost like formulationg and proving a mathematical theorem. Here Alex and I had long discussions until we were both satisfied.

Like with Mark we always reaced a solution we all could agree on.

Rausers's drawing zone (4-2) is introduced in its full form to make it clearer
  
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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #9 - 05/04/20 at 03:52:58
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I have a list of key additions / corrections from the publisher. I'll see if I can post it here.
  
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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #8 - 05/03/20 at 15:18:03
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Thank you for sharing the last edition  Wink
  
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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #7 - 05/01/20 at 00:10:01
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And the next one ...

Dvoretsky‘s Endgame Manual 5th edition
enlarged and revised by Karsten Müller
Foreword by Vladimir Kramnik
440 pages ; June 2020

https://www.russell-enterprises.com/upcoming-publications/dvoretskys-endgame-man...

There‘s an excerpt but no real info about important theoretical changes.
Obviously the blue text has been replaced with text with light grey background.
I have and use 4th German edition from 2010.

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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #6 - 03/16/15 at 19:49:43
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It just occured to me that 6-man tablebases must have been available to Dvoretsky back in 2010/11, so everything with 6 pieces or less (pawns included) in the 3rd edition should be flawless!?

Looks like a nice way to split up my study of technical endgames in any case.
  

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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #5 - 03/16/15 at 18:28:29
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I understand from the reviews (i.e. by proustiskeen https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/2014/12/26/dem4th/ and by Dennis Monokroussos http://www.thechessmind.net/blog/2014/12/25/dvoretskys-endgame-manual-4th-editio...) that most of the analytical updates from the 3rd to the 4th edition are in rook endings.

Can anyone comment on whether the chapters on other frequent endings are largely unchanged? For example, Queen endings, Bishop vs Knight, Rook vs pawns, the chapters on tactical and strategic themes...

Also, does the analyis of the essential material in blue from the 3rd editon still largely hold up?

I'm trying to put my 3rd edition copy to some good use before I eventually get the 4th.
  

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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #4 - 01/08/15 at 22:19:19
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Jeg har min copy of the 4th Edition right in front of me now, and it has the blue ink for the important concepts, with contrast on its black ink. I am not sure exactly what is wrong, because I can klarly see the blue ink and the black ink separated.
  
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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #3 - 01/08/15 at 00:18:59
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Seth_Xoma wrote on 01/07/15 at 07:12:14:
Anyone have it?

I can't imagine too much has changed since the 3rd edition. However, if the blue ink is actually blue this time, I may pick up a copy eventually.

The blue print in the first edition was a stroke of genius...when I received my 3rd edition copy and the blue print and black print were virtually the same, I was extremely disappointed.  Angry


I have the 3rd edition (only), and it's blue enough for me... might be a problem in poor lighting?

I think what happened was the 2nd edition had a too bright/soft blue ink and they had several complaints from people who found it hard to read (at all, not merely distinguish from the black). So naturally they made sure to err on the other side in the 3rd edition!

Frankly, the more important question is whether the updated content merits an "upgrade" to the 4th.
  

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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #2 - 01/07/15 at 18:38:23
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I did. Thanks, I saw the review you were talking about and saw that my question was answered (the answer was no).
  
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Re: Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
Reply #1 - 01/07/15 at 17:06:01
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Do you mean Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual? That's been mentioned in other threads and there's a blog review on it you can find in the general chat.
  
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Endgame Manual - 4th Edition
01/07/15 at 07:12:14
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Anyone have it?

I can't imagine too much has changed since the 3rd edition. However, if the blue ink is actually blue this time, I may pick up a copy eventually.

The blue print in the first edition was a stroke of genius...when I received my 3rd edition copy and the blue print and black print were virtually the same, I was extremely disappointed.  Angry
  
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