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Re: Reti Anti-Grünfeld with ...Nd3+
Reply #6 - 04/27/15 at 20:10:52
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kylemeister wrote on 04/12/15 at 14:10:38:
The old book stuff I remember is 9. b4


Yes, I think this is quite good for White, see http://www.chesspublishing.com/content/12/jan15.htm#sym
  
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Re: Reti Anti-Grünfeld with ...Nd3+
Reply #5 - 04/12/15 at 14:10:38
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The old book stuff I remember is 9. b4 or 9. Ne5 after 8...Ne6.  I recall a GM managing to lose in something like 15 moves against the latter circa 1984.

As I recall, even older book stuff was that 6...Be6 was good for Black, but that came to be viewed as inferior to 6...Nd3+.
  
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Re: Reti Anti-Grünfeld with ...Nd3+
Reply #4 - 04/12/15 at 09:11:19
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Swidler played this against Nepomnjatchi as White. Both are Grünfeld players, so it is interesting in how they play when they play each other. I added the game score to the first post. It looks like a weird game, but it seems like Black makes too many moves with that knight.
  
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Re: Reti Anti-Grünfeld with ...Nd3+
Reply #3 - 04/12/15 at 08:16:14
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Its a definitely known, very, very concrete line. Rather dangerous for black too. Covered in various Symmetrical English books to a greater or lesser degree. Very likely the odd game on Chesspub too.

White definitely isn't forced to transpose to a Rb1 Grunfeld even if you do play 6 bxc3. No one forcing you to play d4 straight away Smiley

'Traditional' is I think to try stuff with Ba3 etc, but even just trying to move order black with something like Be2/o-o/Rb1 before playing d4 is perfectly logical. No Qa5+ x a2 then of course.
  
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Re: Reti Anti-Grünfeld with ...Nd3+
Reply #2 - 04/12/15 at 06:29:13
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Svidler himself recommends this for Black in his series on chess24, but doesn´t analyse 9.h4.
  
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Re: Reti Anti-Grünfeld with ...Nd3+
Reply #1 - 04/12/15 at 01:39:49
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I recall that line with Bc4 ...Nd3+ Ke2 as having been something of a hot topic in the 1980s.

5...Nxc3 6. dc has been considered somewhat promising for White -- an Andersson kind of thing.
  
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Reti Anti-Grünfeld with ...Nd3+
04/12/15 at 01:05:35
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I was interested in this line after seeing Swidler play this against Nepomnjatschji in a tournament in Russia (I think Russian Championships) that went something like this:



I have no idea what this variation is called, but it seems that other GMs use it (like David Antón Guijarro), nor have I seen literature on this line. What exactly is this and obviously, what happens if Black just takes with 5...Nxc3? It looks like White is almost forced to transpose with 6. bxc3 into the 7. Nf3 Grünfeld, but even so, the position looks a bit interesting if Black enters this, given the lack of development.

I notice that Grünfeld players seem to try to force a Grünfeld with a fiancheto and/or ...d5 setup and quickly get fooled. I stopped doing this and started treating 1. Nf3 and 1. c4 as completely different openings as Black, but it seems like this could work against many Grünfeld players.
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