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Re: 9. Lc4: 12. Kb1 Permanent choice for Black?
Reply #2 - 07/29/15 at 00:30:46
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My opinion echoes Mr. Snow's as well. When I took up the Dragon, the 12.Kb1 line was just becoming popular, and most people were going 12...Re8 - everyone thought this was sufficient, and the Burnett line was yet to be discovered. Nowadays I don't trust any of Black's three options, and I think he should instead head to the Topalov variation. Of course, as Glenn pointed out, you must be ready to head into the Soltis anyway after 10.h4 h5, etc. 

I am very interested to hear what Jones has to say about both 12.Kb1 (if he even allows it) and 9.O-O-O d5 (I consider this to be the only move as of now) 10.exd5 Nxd5 11.Nxc6 bxc6 12.Bd4!, etc. To me the former is very dangerous and the latter is very little fun for Black.
  
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Re: 9. Lc4: 12. Kb1 Permanent choice for Black?
Reply #1 - 07/28/15 at 23:59:40
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DenVerdsligeRejsende wrote on 07/28/15 at 21:55:29:
I think that I might quit the Najdorf because it is becoming wholely ridiculous the amount of theory there, and in exchange I insert the Dragon. The main line with 12. Kb1 in Jugoslaw is probably most critical in the entire opening. If I want to play a choice here that is fairly stable and do not have to go hopping all over the place in alternatives, which to choose? 

I have Peter Heine Nielsen's DVD, very good DVD, and he gives 12...Sc4. Is this still good for a permament choice? There is also 12...a6 and 12...Te8 like in Vigorito's book. Or do you Dragonplayers play all three? If you had to play against 12. Kb1 at a 2300+ level which one would you choose regularly?


Great question and I can't wait to see the opinion of some of the real Dragon experts here.  My own current opinion is that Black is really suffering after 12.Kb1 and that he should have deviated earlier and played the Topalov System or maybe, although I don't have as much confidence in it, the Chinese Dragon.  I still think it's necessary to learn the pure Soltis in case White plays 10.h4.  I'd probably play the Dragon if I knew of an answer to 12.Kb1 (it would help to have something more exciting versus 9.0-0-0 but that's chess).
  
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9. Lc4: 12. Kb1 Permanent choice for Black?
07/28/15 at 21:55:29
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I think that I might quit the Najdorf because it is becoming wholely ridiculous the amount of theory there, and in exchange I insert the Dragon. The main line with 12. Kb1 in Jugoslaw is probably most critical in the entire opening. If I want to play a choice here that is fairly stable and do not have to go hopping all over the place in alternatives, which to choose? 

I have Peter Heine Nielsen's DVD, very good DVD, and he gives 12...Sc4. Is this still good for a permament choice? There is also 12...a6 and 12...Te8 like in Vigorito's book. Or do you Dragonplayers play all three? If you had to play against 12. Kb1 at a 2300+ level which one would you choose regularly?
  
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