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Re: Philidor with Nbd7 - Andrew Greet line?
Reply #5 - 09/28/16 at 21:25:39
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All very interesting but Greet recommends 8.e5 so a bit befuddled by the thread title.

I think Black is absolutely fine in both lines btw, 8.e5 and 8.exd5
  
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Re: Philidor with Nbd7 - Andrew Greet line?
Reply #4 - 08/24/15 at 07:13:00
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I played against this line in a correspondence tournament last year and felt very very comfortable with white. We reached the same position after 13 moves. My opponent then deviated from the game you gave with 13...Qb7 instead of c7. The whole game didn't look fun at all for my opponent.

  
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Re: Philidor with Nbd7 - Andrew Greet line?
Reply #3 - 08/10/15 at 20:16:39
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Hmm, I was considering Nbd7 as a second option, but it seems to invite more trouble than I'd like  Sad
  

Those who want to go by my perverse footsteps play such pawn structure with fuzzy atypical still strategic orientations

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Re: Philidor with Nbd7 - Andrew Greet line?
Reply #2 - 08/10/15 at 08:24:27
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They might also not want to get involved with 4 g4 after 3.. Nbd7?
  
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Re: Philidor with Nbd7 - Andrew Greet line?
Reply #1 - 08/09/15 at 20:06:17
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It may not be totally forced, because Black can play 10...Nxd5!?

This leads to a long, semi-forced line I think:
11. Nxd5 cxd5 12. Nf5 Qf6 13. 0-0-0 0-0 14. g4!? (even though John Watson gives 14. g3 with the plan Bg2 as a good alternative).

It continues 14 ...Re8 15. Bxc5 Nxc5 16. Qxd5  Bxf5 17. Qxf5 Qxf5 18. gxf5 Re4. However, White seems better here. It might still be a slighly better practical chance in OTB play.

Anyway, White also has 8. 0-0-0, as given by Gawain Jones, and it seems to lead to an edge for White as well.
  
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Philidor with Nbd7 - Andrew Greet line?
08/09/15 at 18:07:57
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I've been looking at Andrew Greet's rather good Beating unusual chess defences. He's given my repertoire quite a severe testing  Smiley

I was also wondering why a lot of material on the Philidor (reached via 1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3) recommends 3. ...e5 inviting an ending, rather than 3. ...Nbd7

It seems one of the lines recommended by Andrew Greet on p189, not the main one, as I think with 8. ...Bc5, Black is still fighting) but the game reference Polgar-Rivas 1993.

Here's a more recent example.



This line seems quite forcing, and quite 'orrible for Black  Sad

Can anyone improve for Black here? Or is Black busted in this line, and that's why 3. ...e5  Questioning
  

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