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Pawnpusher Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 274 Joined: 01/04/18 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #16 - 06/12/18 at 09:58:03	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hey a man who made his horse a consul couldn't have been all bad.


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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #15 - 06/12/18 at 08:56:40	Post Tools	Print Post
	In anticipation of arrival of my book, I have been refactoring the decimation to replace the Rossolimo and see what the now 3 part plan looks like. The deviation from the Shaw methodology would be to try to retain the English Attack vs. the some lines of the Taimanov. I think what stands out as the main issue, surprise surprise, is the Sveshnikov OK, here's the new list of "Decimation with Quality" ... Plan 1: English Attack vs... Najdorf Classical Schevenigen Taimanov (with Nf6) Dragon (Yugoslav here, but same plan) Plan 2: Maroczy Bind vs Kan Kalashnikov Accelerated Dragon Hyper-Accelerated Dragon O'Kelly Plan 3: Individual Love... Sveshnikov Taimanov with a6 Lowenthal Grivas Nimzowitsch Four Knights Pin Any other rubbish

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fjd God Member Offline Posts: 551 Location: Ottawa Joined: 09/22/16	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #14 - 06/12/18 at 01:27:07	Post Tools	Print Post
	Plans 2 and 3 can also be combined sometimes; e.g. 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 e6 4 0-0 Nge7 5 d4 cd4 6 Nxd4 with the idea of Be2 and c2-c4, aiming for a Maroczy with Black's Knight misplaced on e7.


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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #13 - 06/11/18 at 10:14:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	JEH wrote on 08/29/15 at 10:46:41: Plan 1: The English Attack! Play Be3, support the center with f3, castle Queenside, hurl your g and h pawns forward and sac, sac mate!! Plan 2: The Maroczy Bind! Create an unassailable bastion of pawns on e4 and c4, suffocate your opponent's counter play, crush them before you and hear the lamentations of their post game analysis!! Plan 3: The Rossolimo! They Play Nc6? Put your Bishop on b5 and kill it. KILL IT!! Plan 4: "Err hang on, didn't you say there were only 3 plans?" Yes, a fair cop, but some lines need a bit of individual lovin' http://www.chesspub.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/kiss.gif OK, here's the list of death... Plan 1: English Attack vs... Najdorf Classical Schevenigen Taimanov (with Nf6) Dragon (OK, it's called the Yugoslav here, but same plan) Plan 2: Maroczy Bind vs Kan Accelerated Dragon Hyper-Accelerated Dragon Hyper-Hyper Accelerated Dragon on Speed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arLHb6JHi7Q O'Kelly Plan 3: Rossolimo vs... Sveshnikov Kalashnikov Lowenthal Grivas Whatever...that Nc6 is going to get it. Plan 4: Individual Love Taimanov with a6 Nimzowitsch Four Knights Pin Any other rubbish "Crush your enemies!!" Checking the contents of "Playing 1.e4 - Sicilian Main Lines" by John Shaw reminded of my plan to decimate the Sicilian, except without the Rossolimo. Yoink, have ordered the book as it looks like the update to English Attack mayhem from the orginal Dismantling the Sicilian that I really wanted!

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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #12 - 12/15/16 at 13:14:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	Greetings Decimation fans! I have an update! Elimination of the Maroczy bind gives... Plan 1: English Attack vs d6 [Dismantling the Sicilian, According to Anand, Cutting Edge, Negi Grandmaster Repertoire] Dismantling the: Najdorf Classical (via Rauzer) Schevenigen Dragon Plan 2: King's Indian Attack vs...e6 [Jones Qe2, Kornev 3. g3 or old school Nbd2] Avoiding the: Taimanov Kan Four Knights Pin Plan 3: Rossolimo vs...Nc6 [Kornev & Friends, Bologan, Jones] Avoiding: Accelerated Dragon Sveshnikov Kalashnikov Lowenthal Grivas Plan 4: Individual Love vs... [Kornev & Friends or Jones] 2. ..Nf6 Nimzowitsch 2. ..g6 Hyper-Accelerated Dragon 2. ..a6 O'Kelly

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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #11 - 09/01/15 at 12:06:39	Post Tools	Print Post
	TN wrote on 09/01/15 at 12:00:14: 1.Nf3 c5 2.e4 move order may provide the necessary boost to your results against this opening. I actually do this, to avoid 1. e4 e5=

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TN God Member Offline Posts: 3420 Joined: 11/07/08 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #10 - 09/01/15 at 12:00:14	Post Tools	Print Post
	Decimating the Sicilian is not hard, provided you are much better prepared than the opponent in the given line, and the position is somewhat sharp. Take games such as Anand-Vachier Lagrave, Norway Chess 2015, or Radjabov-Grischuk, FIDE GP 2015. If you are prepared to move 40 and still not achieving the desired decimation, the 1.Nf3 c5 2.e4 move order may provide the necessary boost to your results against this opening.

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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #9 - 09/01/15 at 11:59:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	Here's an update to decimating the Siclian! There is a new plan added to bring us up to a Furious Five! Plan 5: Killed in Action! Some Sicilian style d3 therapy needed maybe but go for the e6 brigade KIA style!! So now we get the White lines according to Grandmaster Flash as... Plan 1: English Attack vs... Najdorf Classical (sometimes) Schevenigen Dragon (OK, it's called the Yugoslav here, but same plan) Plan 2: Maroczy Bind vs... Hyper-Accelerated Dragon O'Kelly Plan 3: Rossolimo vs... Sveshnikov Kalashnikov Lowenthal Grivas Accelerated Dragon (they have to go hyper) Whatever...that Nc6 is going to get it. Plan 4: Individual Love vs... Classical (Raze them with the Rauzer!) Nimzowitsch Any other rubbish Plan 5: KIA vs... Taimanov Kan Four Knights Pin

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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #8 - 09/01/15 at 06:37:06	Post Tools	Print Post
	bragesjo wrote on 08/31/15 at 20:48:05: Be3 does not work vs classical, but i dont remember exact refutation. The Bishop should be at g5 instead. Diligent decimation disciples dutifully determine divergences. Go to g5 first, and then come back to e3 to launch the attack.
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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4946 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #7 - 08/31/15 at 21:35:18	Post Tools	Print Post
	6. Be3 Ng4 7. Bb5 is an old book line, but I have an impression that it has gone from "unclear" to "dubious" or the like. 6. f3 is also a move.


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MartinC God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 2091 Joined: 07/24/06	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #6 - 08/31/15 at 21:13:37	Post Tools	Print Post
	Just 6 .. Ng4 it seems. Although, checking Yermolinsky, if we're settling for decimation (hardly a tough yardstick!) there's 7 Bb5 Nxe3 8 fe Bd7 9 o-o etc.......


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bragesjo God Member Offline CCE at ICCF 2021 and CCM at ICCF 2023 Posts: 1831 Location: Eskilstuna Joined: 06/30/06 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #5 - 08/31/15 at 20:48:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	Be3 does not work vs classical, but i dont remember exact refutation. The Bishop should be at g5 instead.


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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #4 - 08/29/15 at 14:45:43	Post Tools	Print Post
	Stigma wrote on 08/29/15 at 14:31:24: Just to nitpick: The Nimzowitsch Sicilian is 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6, so it needs some individual love as well. Though 3.Bb5 might have some shock value Hmm, Yes, that Nimzowitsch is a slippery fellow and he switched sections on me [now modified, thanks]

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Stigma God Member Offline There is a crack in everything. Posts: 3274 Joined: 11/07/06 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #3 - 08/29/15 at 14:31:24	Post Tools	Print Post
	Just to nitpick: The Nimzowitsch Sicilian is 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6, so it needs some individual love as well. Though 3.Bb5 might have some shock value

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Jupp53 God Member Offline be Posts: 988 Location: Frankfurt/Main Joined: 01/04/09 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #2 - 08/29/15 at 13:17:38	Post Tools	Print Post
	Something I'm thinking about is taking up these two plans. Tks for the list. Something to start with systematically.

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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Re: Decimating the Sicilian Reply #1 - 08/29/15 at 10:48:26	Post Tools	Print Post


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JEH God Member Offline "Football is like Chess, only without the dice." Posts: 1456 Location: Reading Joined: 09/22/05 Gender:	Decimating the Sicilian 08/29/15 at 10:46:41	Post Tools	Print Post
	How to decimate the Sicilian! "Wow", I hear you say. "Err, but hang on, doesn't that mean you only actually kill 1 in 10 of them". OK, a fair cop. But wouldn't you be happy with 1 win in 10 more than your opponent, and thus score with 5 wins, 1 fighting draw, and 4 losses to get a respectable 55% against the Sicilian?* And you can do this with only 3 plans Plan 1: The English Attack! Play Be3, support the center with f3, castle Queenside, hurl your g and h pawns forward and sac, sac mate!! Plan 2: The Maroczy Bind! Create an unassailable bastion of pawns on e4 and c4, suffocate your opponent's counter play, crush them before you and hear the lamentations of their post game analysis!! Plan 3: The Rossolimo! They Play Nc6? Put your Bishop on b5 and kill it. KILL IT!! Plan 4: "Err hang on, didn't you say there were only 3 plans?" Yes, a fair cop, but some lines need a bit of individual lovin' OK, here's the list of death... Plan 1: English Attack vs... Najdorf Classical Schevenigen Taimanov (with Nf6) Dragon (OK, it's called the Yugoslav here, but same plan) Plan 2: Maroczy Bind vs Kan Accelerated Dragon Hyper-Accelerated Dragon Hyper-Hyper Accelerated Dragon on Speed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arLHb6JHi7Q O'Kelly Plan 3: Rossolimo vs... Sveshnikov Kalashnikov Lowenthal Grivas Whatever...that Nc6 is going to get it. Plan 4: Individual Love Taimanov with a6 Nimzowitsch Four Knights Pin Any other rubbish "Crush your enemies!!" *this is not a guarantee. Results against the Sicilian may go down as well as up.
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