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Re: Shamkir Gashimov Memorial
Reply #7 - 05/31/16 at 01:21:35
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Bibs wrote on 05/30/16 at 23:32:29:
I would not suggest pre-arranged. As much because one could never know as anything else. Being a rational sort, I would only ever wish something to be provable.

But, like CbT above, I noted the petering out effect. It leapt out at me. But, y'know, whatever. If locals there are happy, fine, I guess.

Incidentally, while many can be suspected, I only know directly of one deliberate pre-arranged draw.
Well-known author and IM playing capable junior. IM tells junior the page number of a Caro-Kann book, the game reference, to get a seemingly complex draw. Repetition or perpetual, I forget which, but I guess I could look it up.
Junior looks it up, and it duly gets played. Neither bother to act very well though, on the top boards, visible to the crowd. @Plymouth, 1992 iirc.
I know because the junior, a friend and age group peer, told me.
That to me just seems like it is wholly taking the p*** out of those watching.

**Curious, I did look it up.
No repetition or perpetual, just quickly moved to a symmetrical structure. Still very early to agree a draw, but it was agreed. Well, saved energy, and I guess people could go off and look at some ships there or something.**




Your friend was just well-prepared, since the same opponent had trotted out the C-K four rounds earlier...
  
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Re: Shamkir Gashimov Memorial
Reply #6 - 05/30/16 at 23:32:29
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I would not suggest pre-arranged. As much because one could never know as anything else. Being a rational sort, I would only ever wish something to be provable.

But, like CbT above, I noted the petering out effect. It leapt out at me. But, y'know, whatever. If locals there are happy, fine, I guess.

Incidentally, while many can be suspected, I only know directly of one deliberate pre-arranged draw.
Well-known author and IM playing capable junior. IM tells junior the page number of a Caro-Kann book, the game reference, to get a seemingly complex draw. Repetition or perpetual, I forget which, but I guess I could look it up.
Junior looks it up, and it duly gets played. Neither bother to act very well though, on the top boards, visible to the crowd. @Plymouth, 1992 iirc.
I know because the junior, a friend and age group peer, told me.
That to me just seems like it is wholly taking the p*** out of those watching.

**Curious, I did look it up.
No repetition or perpetual, just quickly moved to a symmetrical structure. Still very early to agree a draw, but it was agreed. Well, saved energy, and I guess people could go off and look at some ships there or something.**


  
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Re: Shamkir Gashimov Memorial
Reply #5 - 05/30/16 at 17:21:09
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I hadn't noticed any whiff of pre-arranged draws tbh - will have a closer look but I didn't notice anything strange so far, although granted that could just be my ignorance.
  
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Re: Shamkir Gashimov Memorial
Reply #4 - 05/30/16 at 14:10:47
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I don't understand the allegation, which seems to contradict itself. If the draws are prearranged by policy among players of the same nationality, it is exactly like Curacao. If they are not, the draws are not guaranteed.
  
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Re: Shamkir Gashimov Memorial
Reply #3 - 05/30/16 at 10:37:43
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Hello.

GabrielGale wrote on 05/30/16 at 09:35:34:
But surely there is a whiff of "unsporting-like" behaviour? After all what is the point of a tournament where there are going to be a guaranteed 6 drawn games.

The draws are not guaranteed from the outset. The Azeris just seem to prefer a draw to playing on whenever they reach clearly equal positions, which has happened so far in all three games.

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Re: Shamkir Gashimov Memorial
Reply #2 - 05/30/16 at 09:55:23
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In answer:
1) it appears disrespectful to the memory of Gashimov
2) it's taking the p*** out of the sponsors
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3) it doesn't look like Radjabov can be at all bothered to play chess any more
  
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Re: Shamkir Gashimov Memorial
Reply #1 - 05/30/16 at 09:35:34
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Without trying to hijack the thread, but was about to start a thread on this tournament. Wanted to pose the following question for ChessPubbers to digest and ruminate:
"What is your opinion of a tournament where 4 of the players are from the same country and they are all drawing their games with each other?"
I am not suggesting any blatant unethical behaviour such as match fixing (nothing like Bobby Fischer's allegations of the Curacao tournament).
But surely there is a whiff of "unsporting-like" behaviour? After all what is the point of a tournament where there are going to be a guaranteed 6 drawn games.
  

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Shamkir Gashimov Memorial
05/29/16 at 14:57:32
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Some great commentary and post match interviews by Ljubojevic. Forgot what a great player he was. He can see the key of a position so quick it is truly amazing.
  
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