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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #54 - 03/28/19 at 08:49:17
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 03/28/19 at 06:51:21:
TD wrote on 08/09/18 at 18:15:17:
Hansen will be putting out new Dragon books next year, digging into the theory a lot deeper than he was able to do in the move by move book. Great news!


Have you any more news about this ¿ I cannot find any information about what the books are, or which publisher.

I have no further information.

Maybe this book is interesting to you? There is also a Kindle edition.
https://www.amazon.com/Sicilian-Accelerated-Dragon-20th-Anniversary/dp/171785295...
  
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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #53 - 03/28/19 at 06:51:21
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TD wrote on 08/09/18 at 18:15:17:
Hansen will be putting out new Dragon books next year, digging into the theory a lot deeper than he was able to do in the move by move book. Great news!


Have you any more news about this ¿ I cannot find any information about what the books are, or which publisher.
  
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Reply #52 - 03/28/19 at 06:19:31
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Thanks for the replies.

I was mainly against Fighting the Dragon because I also wanted coverage of other tries eg Levenfish, various Be2 tries etc.

I always assumed the Chesspublishing stuff would be of too high derail. I already subscribe to all sections, so it seems like a completely sensible place to start.

Thanks to an ordinary chess player, RoleyPoley and Stigma for your tips! Looking forward to the dragon. I’ve been a dedicated Ruy Lopez player for about a decade. I’m looking forward to saccing my rook much often!
  
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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #51 - 03/27/19 at 23:28:11
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If you're going to go for Ward's book, why not go for the ChessPublishing Dragons section by the very same author instead? My impression is that Ward quite often includes games because they are thematic or striking even if they're not theoretically critical, to a larger extent than most of the other columnists.

I also believe quite a bit of the same strategic content as in Winning With the Dragon 2 may be found in the early years of the ChessPublishing archives. Though I don't have the book myself, so I can't compare them directly. Of course with ChessPublishing you would also get a by now enormous number of commented games and the latest theory as a "bonus"!

There is one Dragon book that's entirely built around the typical themes of the opening: Secrets of the Sicilian Dragon by Gufeld and Schiller. I have it, but I haven't used it enough to give an informed opinion. The two authors are not exactly known for always delivering profound, high-quality work... but I don't believe this one was their worst effort.
  
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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #50 - 03/27/19 at 22:11:30
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gillbod wrote on 03/27/19 at 10:41:19:
can someone provide me a comparison on how Hansen's Move By Move book compares to Martin's Starting Out book?

i will be supplementing with other sources, so i don't mind things being a little out of date or covered in lesser detail. i'm looking for good explanations on themes and maybe some interesting lesser-known tries for black.

thanks a lot for any help!

I wouldnt bother with Martin's book. If you really dont mind out of date material then i would recommend Ward's books on the dragon. Lines are largely busted but the thematic discussions are excellent. Play the Sicilian by Eddie Dearing is another favoured book but pretty old.

More recent efforts the Fighting Dragon mentioned earlier. Would also recommend Jones's books for Quality Chess over the move by move book but may be a little more advanced than what you are looking for.

The move by move book isnt bad per se but has a lot of annotations in it which dont make it as accessible as the others mentioned.
  
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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #49 - 03/27/19 at 13:17:03
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gillbod wrote on 03/27/19 at 10:41:19:
i'm looking for good explanations on themes and maybe some interesting lesser-known tries for black.

https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-fighting-dragon
  
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Reply #48 - 03/27/19 at 10:41:19
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can someone provide me a comparison on how Hansen's Move By Move book compares to Martin's Starting Out book?

i will be supplementing with other sources, so i don't mind things being a little out of date or covered in lesser detail. i'm looking for good explanations on themes and maybe some interesting lesser-known tries for black.

thanks a lot for any help!
  
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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #47 - 08/10/18 at 16:38:30
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Stigma wrote on 08/10/18 at 15:03:02:
Glenn Snow wrote on 08/10/18 at 04:40:35:
For something different against the Yugoslav, check out Panjwani's own system given in his The Hyper Accelerated Dragon.

It's interesting and different allright. But you can't reach Panjwani's system from a regular Dragon move order. If I recall correctly, that d-pawn can stay on d7 for several moves (or jump straight to d5 at an opportune moment).


Absolutely correct, this option is only available to those who play the Accelerated version.
  
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Reply #46 - 08/10/18 at 15:03:02
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Glenn Snow wrote on 08/10/18 at 04:40:35:
For something different against the Yugoslav, check out Panjwani's own system given in his The Hyper Accelerated Dragon.

It's interesting and different allright. But you can't reach Panjwani's system from a regular Dragon move order. If I recall correctly, that d-pawn can stay on d7 for several moves (or jump straight to d5 at an opportune moment).
  
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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #45 - 08/10/18 at 10:28:49
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RoleyPoley wrote on 08/10/18 at 10:10:12:
TD wrote on 08/09/18 at 18:15:17:
Seeley wrote on 07/27/16 at 21:17:29:
TD wrote on 07/27/16 at 21:02:19:
AJWZ wrote on 07/27/16 at 19:14:22:
First notice: bibliography - no recent books by Jones or Negi included

Very strange indeed. And there seem to be no games after 2014.

Perhaps the book was written some time ago but the publishers preferred to delay publication so as to avoid a clash or near-clash with the publication date of Jones's two-volume work. I realise the intended audience is different but, even so, perhaps they felt buyers would be more likely to choose one or the other work if both came out at the same time, and more likely to buy both if there was a time interval between them. This would explain both the omission from the bibliography of the titles mentioned above, and also the absence of games from later than 2014.

I had contact with Carsten Hansen and he told me that he handed in the manuscript more than a year and a half before it was published. Jones’s books came out just as the editing was being completed.

Hansen will be putting out new Dragon books next year, digging into the theory a lot deeper than he was able to do in the move by move book. Great news!

Excellent news. Do you know which publisher he will be delivering these through?

No.
  
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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #44 - 08/10/18 at 10:10:12
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TD wrote on 08/09/18 at 18:15:17:
Seeley wrote on 07/27/16 at 21:17:29:
TD wrote on 07/27/16 at 21:02:19:
AJWZ wrote on 07/27/16 at 19:14:22:
First notice: bibliography - no recent books by Jones or Negi included

Very strange indeed. And there seem to be no games after 2014.

Perhaps the book was written some time ago but the publishers preferred to delay publication so as to avoid a clash or near-clash with the publication date of Jones's two-volume work. I realise the intended audience is different but, even so, perhaps they felt buyers would be more likely to choose one or the other work if both came out at the same time, and more likely to buy both if there was a time interval between them. This would explain both the omission from the bibliography of the titles mentioned above, and also the absence of games from later than 2014.

I had contact with Carsten Hansen and he told me that he handed in the manuscript more than a year and a half before it was published. Jones’s books came out just as the editing was being completed.

Hansen will be putting out new Dragon books next year, digging into the theory a lot deeper than he was able to do in the move by move book. Great news!

Excellent news. Do you know which publisher he will be delivering these through?
  
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For something different against the Yugoslav, check out Panjwani's own system given in his The Hyper Accelerated Dragon.
  
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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #42 - 08/09/18 at 18:15:17
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Seeley wrote on 07/27/16 at 21:17:29:
TD wrote on 07/27/16 at 21:02:19:
AJWZ wrote on 07/27/16 at 19:14:22:
First notice: bibliography - no recent books by Jones or Negi included

Very strange indeed. And there seem to be no games after 2014.

Perhaps the book was written some time ago but the publishers preferred to delay publication so as to avoid a clash or near-clash with the publication date of Jones's two-volume work. I realise the intended audience is different but, even so, perhaps they felt buyers would be more likely to choose one or the other work if both came out at the same time, and more likely to buy both if there was a time interval between them. This would explain both the omission from the bibliography of the titles mentioned above, and also the absence of games from later than 2014.

I had contact with Carsten Hansen and he told me that he handed in the manuscript more than a year and a half before it was published. Jones’s books came out just as the editing was being completed.

Hansen will be putting out new Dragon books next year, digging into the theory a lot deeper than he was able to do in the move by move book. Great news!
  
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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #41 - 08/19/16 at 21:00:55
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Re: Sicilian Dragon: Move by Move
Reply #40 - 08/19/16 at 14:17:17
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MNb wrote on 08/14/16 at 17:03:15:
So 6.Nb3 Nf6 7.Be2 O-O 8.O-O d6 9.Bg5, 9.Re1 and 9.Kh1 remain.


On either 9.Re1, 9.Bg5 or 9.Kh1 "Jones" suggests Be6. On 9.Kh1 a6 10.a4 "move by move" move gives you 10...b6!? and 10...Be6 11.f4 Bxb3!?. I don't have "Dearing" with me cuz I'm on a trip. But Dearing probably covers 9.Bg5 a6, and different others.
I guess that in the long run you wanted to get them all.
  
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