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Re: Nimzo Indian / Queen's Indian vs d-pawn specials
Reply #7 - 06/07/18 at 17:26:28
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Lanark wrote on 06/07/18 at 12:31:48:
I have a similar question for all Nimzo/Queen's Indian (or Bogo) players out there:

I believe most d-pawn specials (Colle, London, Torre) are most effective when Black has played e6.
Do you still play 2...e6 after 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3, hoping for 3.c4, or do you play a different second move, hoping White doesn't play 3.c4?

For example, after 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 I don't think the d-pawn specials give White much, but you have to be ready to play a Queen's Gambit after 3.c4.
The same goes for 2...d6 and the Old Indian/King's Indian.

So, what is your favourite approach? Just going with the d-pawn stuff after 2...e6 or adding another major opening system to your Black repertoire?


I play 2.Nf3 e6 anyway. You can still play QGD set-ups against pretty much anything, and they are solid and rich enough to outplay a slightly weaker or equal opponent.

Alternatively, you can mix it up with stuff such as 3.Bf4 Nh5 or 3.e3 g6!? or 3.Bg5 h6 4.Bh4 d6!? if you feel like it.
  

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Re: Nimzo Indian / Queen's Indian vs d-pawn specials
Reply #6 - 06/07/18 at 15:47:30
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Lanark wrote on 06/07/18 at 12:31:48:
So, what is your favourite approach? Just going with the d-pawn stuff after 2...e6 or adding another major opening system to your Black repertoire?


I've posted it elsewhere in the forum, but back when I was a Nimzo player I just played 2.Nf3 c5.  I was tired of all the assorted, boring junk that I'd see against 2...e6 (Colle, London, Torre...) and eventually decided that I wanted to know right away whether White was going to play like a man with 3.d5! or some other, non-critical move.  I didn't really play the Benoni, so for the few times I actually faced 3.d5 (about 15% of my games), I played 3...b5. 
  
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Re: Nimzo Indian / Queen's Indian vs d-pawn specials
Reply #5 - 06/07/18 at 12:31:48
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I have a similar question for all Nimzo/Queen's Indian (or Bogo) players out there:

I believe most d-pawn specials (Colle, London, Torre) are most effective when Black has played e6.
Do you still play 2...e6 after 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3, hoping for 3.c4, or do you play a different second move, hoping White doesn't play 3.c4?

For example, after 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 I don't think the d-pawn specials give White much, but you have to be ready to play a Queen's Gambit after 3.c4.
The same goes for 2...d6 and the Old Indian/King's Indian.

So, what is your favourite approach? Just going with the d-pawn stuff after 2...e6 or adding another major opening system to your Black repertoire?
  
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Re: Nimzo Indian / Queen's Indian vs d-pawn specials
Reply #4 - 11/29/16 at 19:42:46
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There should also be some stuff in Fighting the Anti-King's Indians against some of the d-pawn specials, like the Tromp and the Veresov.
  
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Re: Nimzo Indian / Queen's Indian vs d-pawn specials
Reply #3 - 11/28/16 at 20:45:25
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Helpful, thanks!
  
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Re: Nimzo Indian / Queen's Indian vs d-pawn specials
Reply #2 - 11/28/16 at 20:13:21
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There's also grandmaster repitoire 11 by Avrukh. More recent, much thicker which I'm unsure rates as a particular advantage against many of these lines.
(Although given how relatively much super GM attention they've received just recently, they must have picked some theory up.).
  
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Re: Nimzo Indian / Queen's Indian vs d-pawn specials
Reply #1 - 11/28/16 at 19:51:54
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Or, a decent book that covers this? The only one that I know of is the Cox book on 'd4 Deviations', is that the best all-in-one book for anti-d4 setups from black's perspective?
  
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Nimzo Indian / Queen's Indian vs d-pawn specials
07/25/16 at 22:26:41
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Hi,
Does anyone know decent lines against d-pawn specials when Black is a Nimzo/Queen's Indian player?
  
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