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Re: Kornev: A Practical Black Repertoire: Pirc
Reply #11 - 12/22/16 at 23:14:48
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Fllg wrote on 12/22/16 at 19:13:21:
After 5...h6 Shaw´s 6.Bf4 is only a sideline. To his credit Kornev recommends 6...a6 here (because he doesn´t like 6...g5 7.Be3 Ng4 8.h4 for Black) which in return isn´t mentioned by Shaw.

Great. 6...a6 Looks like the best line imo Smiley.

Fllg wrote on 12/22/16 at 19:13:21:
However, the two books merge again after 6.Bh4 (or 6.Bf4) g5 7.Bg3 Nh5 8.0-0-0 Nc6 9.Qe3 Bd7 10.Be2 when they both cite the game Holdschik - Gildred, Chessfriend.com 2004. After the further 10...Nxg3 11.hxg3 e5 12.dxe5 Nxe5 13.f4 Ng4 14.Bxg4 Bxg4 15.Nf3 c6 16.e5 Shaw stops and evaluates the position as clearly better for White while Kornev follows the game a little longer with 16...Qb6 17.Qxb6 axb6 18.Rxd6 Bf8 and attests Black compensation for the pawn. No further explanation is given and at first glance Shaw´s assessment seems nearer to the truth to me.

Don't really get why anyone would want to go into that as black (and consequently why it is in a repertoire book Huh). Further 13.Kb1 looks like a hot contender for line-buster as well.

Fllg wrote on 12/22/16 at 19:13:21:
But Kornev also analyses 6.Bh4 0-0 which may be more reliable for Black.

This I looked at a little bit. Can't say I found anything truly inspiring for black. If white goes for what is likely the critical line, 7.0-0-0, black seemed to benefit in many lines from white having castled long though.


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Reply #10 - 12/22/16 at 19:13:21
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AJZ wrote on 12/22/16 at 06:40:18:
How 5...h6 compares to Shaw's treatment?


After 5...h6 Shaw´s 6.Bf4 is only a sideline. To his credit Kornev recommends 6...a6 here (because he doesn´t like 6...g5 7.Be3 Ng4 8.h4 for Black) which in return isn´t mentioned by Shaw.

However, the two books merge again after 6.Bh4 (or 6.Bf4) g5 7.Bg3 Nh5 8.0-0-0 Nc6 9.Qe3 Bd7 10.Be2 when they both cite the game Holdschik - Gildred, Chessfriend.com 2004. After the further 10...Nxg3 11.hxg3 e5 12.dxe5 Nxe5 13.f4 Ng4 14.Bxg4 Bxg4 15.Nf3 c6 16.e5 Shaw stops and evaluates the position as clearly better for White while Kornev follows the game a little longer with 16...Qb6 17.Qxb6 axb6 18.Rxd6 Bf8 and attests Black compensation for the pawn. No further explanation is given and at first glance Shaw´s assessment seems nearer to the truth to me.

But Kornev also analyses 6.Bh4 0-0 which may be more reliable for Black.
  
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Reply #9 - 12/22/16 at 08:22:11
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AJZ wrote on 12/22/16 at 06:40:18:
after 4.Be3 I prefer 4...a6, and in 4.Bg5 line 5...h6 and not 5...c6


You could think of it as more options  Smiley
  

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Reply #8 - 12/22/16 at 06:40:18
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Fllg wrote on 12/20/16 at 18:41:37:
AJZ wrote on 12/20/16 at 08:01:25:
I'm particularly interested in theoretical duel with J. Shaw.


I´m afraid in that case you may be disappointed.

I bought the book on Forward Chess and the Preface dates "December 2016"
but the bibliography somewhat strangely does not contain Shaw´s "Playing 1.e4" at all.

I do not have the time to compare everything right now but it´s noticable that in the line 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Qd2 c6 6.Bh6 Bxh6 7.Qxh6 Qa5 8.Bd3 c5 9.d5 Nbd7 10.Nf3 Kornev correctly gives 10...c4! as best but fails to consider an improvement given by Shaw later on.

However, Shaw reaches this position after 4.Bg5 when Kornev recommends 4...Bg7 5.Qd2 h6 instead of 5...c6.



Well, it's a little dissapointing indeed. Nonetheless, as after 4.Be3 I prefer 4...a6, and in 4.Bg5 line 5...h6 and not 5...c6, I'm still hoping for decent treatment at least the later lines. How 5...h6 compares to Shaw's treatment?
  
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Reply #7 - 12/20/16 at 18:41:37
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AJZ wrote on 12/20/16 at 08:01:25:
I'm particularly interested in theoretical duel with J. Shaw.


I´m afraid in that case you may be disappointed.

I bought the book on Forward Chess and the Preface dates "December 2016"
but the bibliography somewhat strangely does not contain Shaw´s "Playing 1.e4" at all.

I do not have the time to compare everything right now but it´s noticable that in the line 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Qd2 c6 6.Bh6 Bxh6 7.Qxh6 Qa5 8.Bd3 c5 9.d5 Nbd7 10.Nf3 Kornev correctly gives 10...c4! as best but fails to consider an improvement given by Shaw later on.

However, Shaw reaches this position after 4.Bg5 when Kornev recommends 4...Bg7 5.Qd2 h6 instead of 5...c6.

  
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Reply #6 - 12/20/16 at 14:07:21
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JEH wrote on 12/20/16 at 10:55:36:
Smiley

Not a good time of year to get books delivered fast, and I want it NOW!

So I plan to get it from the Book stall in Hastings next week. Apologies if I trample you in the rush  Smiley


I'll be buying from Russia (cheaper and hardcover ed.  Smiley), so I'm going to wait longer than you. Sad
  
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Reply #5 - 12/20/16 at 10:55:36
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Not a good time of year to get books delivered fast, and I want it NOW!

So I plan to get it from the Book stall in Hastings next week. Apologies if I trample you in the rush  Smiley
  

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Reply #4 - 12/20/16 at 08:01:25
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The book is out:
http://www.chess-stars.com/index.html

Waiting for your impressions/assessments, especially about the Pirc. I'm particularly interested in theoretical duel with J. Shaw.
  
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Reply #3 - 09/05/16 at 23:18:29
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Bit odd to note that the Austrian 6 Be3 is covered in 'not Be2/Bd3'. see p.263. It's a serious line boys and girls, give it a section. Respect it. From a practical OTB, and very much a sales perspective, it has been recommended in repertoire books.

Yes, very good to see the repertoire aspect. But as noted earlier, I'd have thought a discussion of 1 d4 d6 would have been well worth having. For those with a historical leaning, the Yrjola/Tella book is splendid in that regard. Quality.

(With due sincere apologies to Mr Y - I do not know how to to do Finnish letters, umlauts and things, whatever they are, sorry).
  
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Reply #2 - 09/05/16 at 18:39:29
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Re: A real repertoire book, it's nice to see around 10 pages in that TOC devoted to White's 2nd move alternatives. Coverage of them has been sorely lacking in previous Pirc books, even purported repertoire books and complete/ultimate type books.

Especially 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 (trying to play like a Grand Prix Attack or Closed Sicilian) and 2.c4 are difficult to face if you are taken by surprise. 2.d3 can lead to a KIA or some weird symmetrical stuff.
  

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Reply #1 - 09/05/16 at 17:39:40
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Hey.

Good to see this coming closer to publication. My one hope is that it will be a real repertoire book. Am not terribly pleased with other Pirc publications when it comes to using them as repertoire books.

Looking at the table of contents It is indeed hard to come to many firm concusions about lines chosen. We do see that the 5...0-0 Austrian is recommended. This is not hugely surprising though considering 5...c5 is forcing and theory-heavy (though also at least not easy to gain an edge against on a meta-theoretical level). Other than that one can maybe compare number of pages devoted to each line. There seems to be many pages for 4.g3, few for 4.Bg5 and possibly quite few for 4.Be3 and 4.f3 systems. We'll see how content filled every page is though.

Have a nice day.


Edit (shortly after posting): Oh! And there's a KID book as well. Only see it adding to the KID player's arsenal if somewhat diverges from Vigorito and Kotronias (even with their books published it's going to be hard to match their level of analysis). Rich opening though so I'm sure Korneev will come up with something nice somewhere.
  
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Kornev: A Practical Black Repertoire: Pirc
09/05/16 at 13:18:11
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An update from Chess Stars Publishing - vol. 1 with the Pirc among others is due to be released in December whilst vol. 2, which is solely about King's Indian will be released soon:

http://www.chess-stars.com/Future_Plans.html

KI material is 2x bigger than Pirc as for now (vol. 1 might be bigger in the end I think), which is not that surprising.

Any thoughts about chosen lines in the Pirc book, despite the fact that not much was revealed?
  
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