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Re: Repertoire books vs Pirc
Reply #9 - 09/24/16 at 09:05:37
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P.S. I had noted Nigel Davies's Dymanic Reti having a line vs the Pirc.

According to Kramnik, having a classical line vs the KID, I expect would avoid the issue.

Are there any other 1. Nf3 books dealing with the Pirc?
  

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Re: Repertoire books vs Pirc
Reply #8 - 09/24/16 at 08:34:47
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Thanks, I'm mainly an e4 player, so don't have much of the d4 books, but since I also go 1. d4 d6, it would be useful to see what's been recommended there. I'd expect most would want to keep it in d4 land as 1. d4 d6 2. e4 opens up more than just the Pirc, but I'd like to know of any more d4 books offering up the 2. e4 like Kornev and these. There was a time when 1. d4 d6 didn't even get a mention in the side lines  Huh

I was aware of some d-pawn specials repertoires needing a line vs the Pirc, and I'd got these in my list, unless I've missed any.

The Argentine attack seems to be getting it's best coverage in d4 repertoire books  Wink

  

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Re: Repertoire books vs Pirc
Reply #7 - 09/24/16 at 08:27:42
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Some of the 1.d4 books go 1...d6 2.e4, e.g. -

Burgess & Pedersen, Beating the Indian Defences, Batsford 1997 (Be3 and Qd2)

Kaufman, The Kaufman Repertoire for Black & White, New in Chess 2012 (Be3 and Qd2, or 4...c6 5.h3)

Schandorff, Playing 1.d4 - The Indian Defences, Quality Chess 2012 (3.f3, aiming for a Saemisch KID)

Also, I believe that in the second round of his Kramnik series Khalifman went 1.Nf3 g6 2.e4 d6 3.d4, but I'm not sure what happens after 3...Nf6 - maybe 4.Bd3?

An obscure one: Barlov & Jovicic, White is Better - 1.e2-e4, World of Chess 1994 (3.Bd3)

Finally, isn't there a lot of Austrian Attack stuff in Lalic & Okhotnik's Carpathian Warrior?
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Re: Repertoire books vs Pirc
Reply #6 - 09/24/16 at 05:08:45
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RoleyPoley wrote on 09/23/16 at 17:55:56:
Congrats. I think you may have covered all of the repertoire books i may have known of.


After a bit of book sorting, it became apparent how many repertoire books I have accumulated over the years, most largely redundant.

So I had in mind a little project to make use of them by doing a study of the Pirc by going through the various approches used against it over the years to see how that had evolved, to increase my understanding of the defence, and to get some use of some of my sad little books  Smiley
  

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Re: Repertoire books vs Pirc
Reply #5 - 09/23/16 at 17:55:56
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JEH wrote on 09/23/16 at 14:00:49:
I have been collating the choices of various repertoire books vs the Pirc. I'd be grateful if you can fill any gaps.
Year,Publisher,Author,Title,Rep
1975,Oxford University Press,Walker,Chess Openings For Juniors,4. f3  Be3
1976,Batsford,Barden/Harding,Batsford Guide to Chess Openings,4. f4  e5
1976,Batsford,Barden/Harding,Batsford Guide to Chess Openings,4. Bg5
1979,Batsford,Cafferty,Chess Opening For You,4. Nf3 Be2
1979,Chess Player,Baker,Line for White,4. f4  e5
1979,Chess Player,Baker,2nd Line for White,4. Bc4
1983,MacMillan,Mendis,From the Opening Into the Endgame,4. Nf3 Be2
1984,Batsford,Keene/Levy,For the Attackng Player,4. Bg5
1986,Chess Digest,Soltis,1. e4,3. Bd3
1992,Chess Digest,Schiller,Winning with 1. e4,Grand Prix
1993,Chess Digest,Soltis,Beating the Pirc,4. g3
1996,Cadogan,Gufeld,Attacking,4. f4  0-0 Be3/c5 Bb5
1996,Cadogan,Gufeld,Positional,3. f3
1998,Batsford,Baker,Startling,4. f4  0-0 Be3/c5 Bb5
1998,Cardoza,Schiller,Gambit,4. Bc4
1998,Everyman,Summerscale,Killer,4. Nf3 Be3
2001,Everyman,Emms,Attacking,4. Be3 f3
2004,McKay,Kaufman,Advantage,4. Be3 f3
2004,Batsford,Collins,Attacking,4. Bg5
2004,Everyman,Davies,Dynamic Reti,4. Nf3 Be3+h3
2005,Everyman,Davies,Gambieer,4. f4  a3
2005,Chess Stars,Khalifman,According to Anand,4. f4  0-0 Bd3/c5 Bb5+Bxd7
2006,Everyman,McDonald,Starting Out 1.e4,4. Be3 f3
2008,Everyman,Palliser,D-pawn attacks,4. Nf3 Be3
2009,Everyman,Palliser,Dangerous Weapons,4. Be3 g4
2009,Norton,Dzindzi,White Explained,4. Nf3 Be3+h3
2011,Everyman,Lakdawala,Ferocious,4. Bg5
2011,Everyman,Greet,Beating Unusual,4. f4  0-0 Be3/c5 dxc+Qd4
2014,Mongoose,Tamburro,For Amateurs,4. f4  e5
2016,New In Chess,Moret,First,3. f3
2016,Gambit,Collins,Simple,3. Bd3
2016,Quality,Shaw,Playing e4,4. Bg5

Totals

Austrian     8
Nf3            6
Bg5           5
Be3/f3       4
Bc4            2
3. Bd3        2
3. f3           2
Be3/g4       1
Grand Prix  1
g3              1


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Congrats. I think you may have covered all of the repertoire books i may have known of. Will be interesting to see what books are highlighted by other members.  Smiley
  

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Re: Repertoire books vs Pirc
Reply #4 - 09/23/16 at 17:24:40
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Thanks good one, and recent coverage of the Argentine Attack.
  

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Re: Repertoire books vs Pirc
Reply #3 - 09/23/16 at 16:32:09
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Here is an important one:
A Practical White Repertoire with 1.d4 and 2.c4. Volume 2: The King's Fianchetto Defences
by Alexei Kornev (2013) - 4.Be3 Pirc:
http://www.chess-stars.com/resources/tom2_contents.pdf

The author will fight with it too  Grin:
http://www.chess-stars.com/Future_Plans.html
  
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Re: Repertoire books vs Pirc
Reply #2 - 09/23/16 at 14:46:38
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RdC wrote on 09/23/16 at 14:31:53:
JEH wrote on 09/23/16 at 14:00:49:
I have been collating the choices of various repertoire books vs the Pirc.


Whilst not a repertoire book as such, the Keene & Botterill Batsford collaboration from the early 1970s does contain a number of hack lines in the Austrian and perhaps other systems, even if written from the viewpoint that they shouldn't work.


Yes, I have that one, but I was more interested in repertoire book choices, rather than full coverage books like Complete Pirc, Ultimate Pirc and Pirc in Black and White unless those books suggested a repertoire choice for White.

It was interesting to see how many Austrian attacks there were, but played in different ways.
  

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Re: Repertoire books vs Pirc
Reply #1 - 09/23/16 at 14:31:53
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JEH wrote on 09/23/16 at 14:00:49:
I have been collating the choices of various repertoire books vs the Pirc.


Whilst not a repertoire book as such, the Keene & Botterill Batsford collaboration from the early 1970s does contain a number of hack lines in the Austrian and perhaps other systems, even if written from the viewpoint that they shouldn't work.
  
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09/23/16 at 14:00:49
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I have been collating the choices of various repertoire books vs the Pirc. I'd be grateful if you can fill any gaps.
Year,Publisher,Author,Title,Rep
1975,Oxford University Press,Walker,Chess Openings For Juniors,4. f3  Be3
1976,Batsford,Barden/Harding,Batsford Guide to Chess Openings,4. f4  e5
1976,Batsford,Barden/Harding,Batsford Guide to Chess Openings,4. Bg5
1979,Batsford,Cafferty,Chess Opening For You,4. Nf3 Be2
1979,Chess Player,Baker,2nd Line for White,4. f4 e5
1980,Chess Player,Thomas,Line for White,4. Bc4
1983,Pergamon,Mendis,From the Opening Into the Endgame,4. Nf3 Be2
1984,Batsford,Keene/Levy,For the Attacking Player,4. Bg5
1986,Chess Digest,Soltis,1. e4,3. Bd3
1992,Chess Digest,Schiller,Winning with 1. e4,Grand Prix
1993,Chess Digest,Soltis,Beating the Pirc,4. g3
1994,World of Chess,Barlov/Jovicic,White is Better - 1.e2-e4,3. Bd3
1996,Cadogan,Gufeld,Attacking,4. f4  0-0 Be3/c5 Bb5
1996,Cadogan,Gufeld,Positional,3. f3
1997,Batsford,Burgess/Pedersen,4. Be3 f3
1998,Batsford,Baker,Startling,4. f4  0-0 Be3/c5 Bb5
1998,Cardoza,Schiller,Gambit,4. Bc4
1998,Everyman,Summerscale,Killer,4. Nf3 Be3
2001,Everyman,Emms,Attacking,4. Be3 f3
2003,Trafford,Acers/Laven,Guiding Repertoire for White,4. f4 e5
2003,Trafford,Acers/Laven,Guiding Repertoire for White,4. Bg5
2003,Trafford,Acers/Laven,Guiding Repertoire for White,4. Nf3 Be2
2003,Trafford,Acers/Laven,Guiding Repertoire for White,4. f3 Be3
2004,McKay,Kaufman,Advantage,4. Be3 f3
2004,Batsford,Collins,Attacking,4. Bg5
2004,Everyman,Davies,Dynamic Reti,4. Nf3 Be3+h3
2005,Everyman,Davies,Gambiteer,4. f4  a3
2005,Chess Stars,Khalifman,According to Anand,4. f4  0-0 Bd3/c5 Bb5+Bxd7
2005,New In Chess,Lalic/Okhotnik,Carpathian Warrior,4. f4 various
2005,New In Chess,Lalic/Okhotnik,Carpathian Warrior,Spike
2006,Everyman,McDonald,Starting Out 1.e4,4. Be3 f3
2008,Everyman,Palliser,D-pawn attacks,4. Nf3 Be3
2009,Everyman,Palliser,Dangerous Weapons,4. Be3 g4
2009,Norton,Dzindzichashvili,White Explained,4. Nf3 Be3+h3
2009,Chess Information,Chernin/Alburt,Pirc Alert!,4. g3
2010,Gambit,Summerscale/Johnson,Killer Enlarged,4. Nf3 Be3
2011,Everyman,Lakdawala,Ferocious,4. Bg5
2011,Everyman,Greet,Beating Unusual,4. f4  0-0 Be3/c5 dxc+Qd4
2012,New in Chess,Kaufman,Repertoire in Black and White,4. Be3 f3
2012,Quality,Schandorff,Playing 1.d4 - The Indian Defences,3. f3
2013,Chess Stars,Kornev,Practical White 2,4. Be3 f3
2014,Mongoose,Tamburro,For Amateurs,4. f4  e5
2016,New In Chess,Moret,First,4. f3 Be3
2016,Gambit,Collins,Simple,3. Bd3
2016,Quality,Shaw,Playing e4,4. Bg5

Totals

Austrian     10
Be3/f3       9
Nf3            8
Bg5           6
3. Bd3        3
3. f3           2
g3              2
Bc4            2
Be3/g4       1
Grand Prix   1
Spike          1



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