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Magnus +3    
  7 (11.5%)
Sergey +3    
  0 (0.0%)
Magnus +1-3 (regulation)    
  44 (72.1%)
Sergey +1-3 (regulation)    
  4 (6.6%)
Tie. Magnus wins the tiebreak    
  4 (6.6%)
Tie. Sergey wins the tiebreak    
  2 (3.3%)
The match goes unfinished...    
  0 (0.0%)




Total votes: 61
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Re: 2016 World Championship Match
Reply #28 - 11/15/16 at 05:58:21
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I believe it was invented (even if not in this exact position) by MVL while playing around on the Play Magnus app. Chess.com has some more information in their Round 3 report:https://www.chess.com/news/view/carlsen-can-t-airlift-karjakin-s-berlin-in-round.... Of course Carlsen, ever the jokester, said that the rook "slipped" on e2 Grin
  
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Reply #27 - 11/15/16 at 04:23:12
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The "point" as guessed by Svidler/Hansen (both of which also didn't know the move) is that it invites 10. ..b6 for b6-a5-Ba6 type plans against a potential Qd3 & c2-c4, after which Magnus plays 11.Re1, "claiming" that the pawn on b6 is actually weaker than on b7 (because black would like to go a6 in many positions, c6 is less of an option, and in some variations the Rook on a8 now gets hit by the white Queen).

I would heavily surmise the move is less about getting an objective advantage, and more about getting a comparably unknown position that he spent more time preparing than Karjakin did (much like his choice of the Trompowsky in the first game), to eat some time off the clock and put him under pressure as soon as possible (which is likely.. difficult.. in most lines of the Re1 Berlin).
I don't believe this has much of a future as a refutation to the Berlin :H and even doubt we'll see it again in this match.

It's not a novelty (c24 Database eg gives 2 games played with it in 2016, by Kasimdzhanov and Vallejo Pons), but unsure who "invented it" (The chat claimed Giri at some point, but that might just have been a random name drop), and it certainly qualifies as rare and fresh enough with Svidler not knowing it.
  
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Re: 2016 World Championship Match
Reply #26 - 11/15/16 at 02:57:09
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Who can explain today's 10.Re2!? to me?  Is this a new idea?  I know little about the Berlin and its sidelines.

  
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Reply #25 - 11/15/16 at 02:13:51
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I wonder what Carlsen missed when he went for Rb7.. very strange end to a very interesting game.
  
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Re: 2016 World Championship Match
Reply #24 - 11/12/16 at 17:15:39
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I was on ICC for game 1. There were some masters, IMs and a couple of GMs there. The feed was pretty close to being in real time.
  
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Re: 2016 World Championship Match
Reply #23 - 11/12/16 at 14:53:35
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Michael Ayton wrote on 11/11/16 at 19:28:37:
Chess 24 is just giving me (in the UK) error messages. Any other sites?


I'm in the UK too, but didnt have any problems with Chess 24. Did you eventually get onto it?
  

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Reply #22 - 11/12/16 at 14:32:58
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In previous years Chessbase used to feature a highlights video by Danny King for free after the game. Don't see that anymore. Surely that cannot be blocked?
  
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Reply #21 - 11/11/16 at 20:17:55
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According to twitter the pay site has crashed anyway and is down, so dont waste money on that.
  
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Reply #20 - 11/11/16 at 20:06:24
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Thanks -- working for me too now.
  
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Reply #19 - 11/11/16 at 19:48:32
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chess24 working for me but no live video stream, just live commentary
  
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Reply #18 - 11/11/16 at 19:28:37
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Chess 24 is just giving me (in the UK) error messages. Any other sites?
  
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Reply #17 - 11/11/16 at 19:14:02
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On Chess 24 now but I don't know if it delayed by an hour. Just started commentary ca. 15 minutes ago.
  
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Re: 2016 World Championship Match
Reply #16 - 11/11/16 at 19:07:10
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so we have no live stream? thats poor.
  
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Re: 2016 World Championship Match
Reply #15 - 11/11/16 at 14:45:16
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Do you have to pay on WorldChess?
I thought you only had to get through the free registering process; with the payment being for the VR-Stuff?!
At least that's how it was for the last WCh

Chess24 most definitely is free and doesn't even require you to register.
  
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Re: 2016 World Championship Match
Reply #14 - 11/11/16 at 13:03:01
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Gerry1970 wrote on 11/11/16 at 10:43:49:
Hello:
If you don't want to register and pay for the official site are there any other options to watch with commentary. Chess24 I think but you probably have to pay their too?
Thanks.


No, i think Chess 24's commentary for the big tournaments is free.
  

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