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Reply #30 - 04/08/18 at 08:32:44
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There is also the new book Schielmann - The Complete Guide by Roman Jiganchine which is available on ForwardChess.  I see he's a master living in Canada and that he's written quite a few books.  I don't have the book so I can't offer a review.
  
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Reply #29 - 02/20/18 at 08:56:44
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RoleyPoley wrote on 02/19/18 at 16:47:44:
I thought the video was 17 euros? How do you get it for 5 - is that by subscribing to the site?

Also, do you still play this opening? (or at least consider it still part of your repertoire?


The video may be 17 euros – I don't know, I'm not interested in videos – but the single ebook is just 4.99, and signing up for the site is free. Yes, I think you can pay more to get access to all the ebooks, but I'm not interested in that either.

Yes, I still play the Schliemann Smiley – when anyone gives me the chance anyway, which isn't very often nowadays.
  

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Reply #28 - 02/20/18 at 08:50:35
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Well, you've given me something to think about anyway. I have no programming ability at all to write scripts and suchlike, but possibly someone does.
  

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Re: Books on the Schiliemann
Reply #27 - 02/20/18 at 01:39:05
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 02/19/18 at 08:03:11:
Everyman already produces electronic versions via Kindle and their own chess-playing app. And the whole book goes to print as a PDF. What we want is to produce ChessBase compatible ebooks as well. Do you actually have any helpful suggestions as to how to do that without copying and pasting text manually? Or are you just being a smartarse?

I'm not trying to be a smart-arse, it probably just seems that way because of, you know, the internet.

As it happens, I just bought Hansen's Closed Sicilian MBM. Game 5 in the PGN file begins:

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1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 ({As a committed Najdorf player, Novikov opted for} 2... d6
{here, and only after} 3. g3 {then} Nc6 4. Bg2 g6 5. d3 Bg7 {etc.}) 3. g3 g6 4.
Bg2 Bg7 5. d3 d6 6. Be3 e6 7. Qd2 {The most consistent continuation;} ({
instead,} 7. f4 Nge7 8. Nf3 O-O 9. O-O {transposes to 6 f4 e6 lines in Chapter
Six.}) 7... Nd4 {This is generally considered premature. Black should normally

Now when I unpack the EPUB file, I see that index_split_008.html contains the following (I replaced the angle-braces with curly-braces, and bolded the text between the braces.) :

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{span class="bold"}1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 Nc6{/span}{/span}
{/div}
{p class="calibre_1"}{span class="calibre1" xml:lang="EN-US"}As a committed Najdorf player, Novikov opted for 2 ... d6 here, and only after 3 g3 then 3 ... Nc6 4 Bg2 g6 5 d3 Bg7 etc.{/span}{/p}
{p class="calibre_1"}{span class="calibre1 bold" xml:lang="EN-US"}3 g3 g6 4 Bg2 Bg7 5 d3 d6 6 Be3 e6 7 Qd2{/span}{/p}
{p class="calibre_1"}{span class="calibre1" xml:lang="EN-US"}The most consistent continuation; instead, 7 f4 Nge7 8 Nf3 0-0 9 0-0 transposes to 6 f4 e6 lines in Chapter Six.{/span}{/p}
{p class="calibre_1"}{span class="calibre1 bold" xml:lang="EN-US"}7 ... Nd4{/span}{/p}
{p class="calibre_1"}{span class="calibre1" xml:lang="EN-US"}This is generally considered premature. Black should normally


So, if Everyman sold me the EPUB but did not include a PGN, I would write a script to extract all the HTML content to a TXT file, then in a text editor transform that to PGN by adding the tags and braces. But I would never advise Everyman to do it that way. Instead Everyman should create some html-classes to distinguish pgn-moves from pgn-comments from editorial-comments. Then create a custom css to render the html-classes as desired. Now the script that extracts the HTML content from the EPUB can read the html-classes to automatically generate a valid PGN file.

Check this out from Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB

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Data interchange

EPUB is a popular way to feed the ebook creation process, because it is an open format and is based on HTML, while Amazon's format is proprietary. EPUB is the "first step" (initial) format of the content in many production processes and supply chains.


BTW, the file MBMCSicilian.pgn is NOT valid pgn, it violates the specification in numerous ways. So even though I do not have to extract from the epub, I still have to spend a lot of time in a text editor getting their pgn file to conform to the pgn standard. The pgn I quoted above already contains a mistake according to the standard. See if you can spot it.
  
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Re: Books on the Schiliemann
Reply #26 - 02/19/18 at 16:47:44
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 02/19/18 at 08:07:47:
TopNotch wrote on 02/18/18 at 15:34:26:
Posters keen on this defence could also consider the following chess24 (2016) release by a leading practitioner:

'Hi everyone, my name is Roeland Pruijssers. I am a Dutch Grandmaster. In my first series for chess24 I want to share my analysis, games and ideas in the Schliemann-Jaenisch Gambit. It's an opening which I've been studying and playing for about five years now - with very good results.'


Yes, that's an essential online publication for serious Schliemann enthusiasts – and it's only five euros for permanent access Smiley


I thought the video was 17 euros? How do you get it for 5 - is that by subscribing to the site?

Also, do you still play this opening? (or at least consider it still part of your repertoire?

  

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Re: Books on the Schiliemann
Reply #25 - 02/19/18 at 08:07:47
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TopNotch wrote on 02/18/18 at 15:34:26:
Posters keen on this defence could also consider the following chess24 (2016) release by a leading practitioner:

'Hi everyone, my name is Roeland Pruijssers. I am a Dutch Grandmaster. In my first series for chess24 I want to share my analysis, games and ideas in the Schliemann-Jaenisch Gambit. It's an opening which I've been studying and playing for about five years now - with very good results.'


Yes, that's an essential online publication for serious Schliemann enthusiasts – and it's only five euros for permanent access Smiley
  

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Reply #24 - 02/19/18 at 08:03:11
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 02/19/18 at 05:21:59:
You don't have that now. Witness the copying and pasting.
ChessBase is great, but it's just software. If it doesn't do exactly what you need (and I predict it doesn't), get another program. Or roll your own.


Everyman already produces electronic versions via Kindle and their own chess-playing app. And the whole book goes to print as a PDF. What we want is to produce ChessBase compatible ebooks as well. Do you actually have any helpful suggestions as to how to do that without copying and pasting text manually? Or are you just being a smartarse?
  

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Reply #23 - 02/19/18 at 05:21:59
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 02/18/18 at 14:57:52:
If you can think of a format that allows a direct transition to ChessBase game files, please let me know

You don't have that now. Witness the copying and pasting.
ChessBase is great, but it's just software. If it doesn't do exactly what you need (and I predict it doesn't), get another program. Or roll your own.
  
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Reply #22 - 02/18/18 at 15:34:26
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Posters keen on this defence could also consider the following chess24 (2016) release by a leading practitioner:

'Hi everyone, my name is Roeland Pruijssers. I am a Dutch Grandmaster. In my first series for chess24 I want to share my analysis, games and ideas in the Schliemann-Jaenisch Gambit. It's an opening which I've been studying and playing for about five years now - with very good results.'

Bye.
  

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Reply #21 - 02/18/18 at 14:57:52
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 02/17/18 at 18:03:02:
OMG, copy/paste !!! Ever heard of TeX? LaTeX? DocBook?

With a well thought out document format, you should be able to output your choice of camera-ready pages, epub, pdf, pgn, playable e-book, etc. with one command. Make a change to the source document, boom, every output format is updated.


If you can think of a format that allows a direct transition to ChessBase game files, please let me know Smiley
  

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Reply #20 - 02/17/18 at 18:39:54
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That's what I am also always wondering about. Having a proper publishing environment set up you could
- automatically generate all formats
- check for all move order issues (same position different evaluation, or overlooked transpositions)
- avoid most typos
- automatize engine checking
- generate diagrams, headers, indexes automatically
- cure cancer
- achieve world piece
- ...
  
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OMG, copy/paste !!! Ever heard of TeX? LaTeX? DocBook?

With a well thought out document format, you should be able to output your choice of camera-ready pages, epub, pdf, pgn, playable e-book, etc. with one command. Make a change to the source document, boom, every output format is updated.

Admittedly, a WYSIWYG editor would require a lot more effort. In the meantime you could just churn out a pdf every day and proofread that.
  
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Reply #18 - 02/17/18 at 17:34:27
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Fllg wrote on 02/17/18 at 16:02:56:
Thank you. That´s quite impressive.

It takes me usually weeks to extract the most important information from a book into chessbase, but of course I cannot work on it full time due to other duties.  Wink


Ah, but presumably you're having to copy everything "long hand", so to speak? Whereas I have the actual typeset, which means I can highlight/copy from that and paste it directly into CB files. Smiley
  

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Thank you. That´s quite impressive.

It takes me usually weeks to extract the most important information from a book into chessbase, but of course I cannot work on it full time due to other duties.  Wink
  
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Reply #16 - 02/17/18 at 14:46:03
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Fllg wrote on 02/17/18 at 13:40:52:
Just out of curiosity: How long does it take you to convert a 400 (?) page book into an ebook?


It depends what state the initial CB files are in really. In this case, I did a fair bit of work while editing the book, so it shouldn't take more than 3 or 4 days. Whereas the huge Kasparov books, starting with no CB files at all, could take a fortnight.
  

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