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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #24 - 02/20/17 at 17:52:02
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Incidentally 8. Bf4 is also the move pointed at by Panczyk/Ilczuk in their Classical KID book of 2009, with similar comments (a rather unusual post, but ...) and citing Chuchelov-Glek. 
  
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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #23 - 02/20/17 at 15:17:47
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Hi TopNotch,

Thanks for your feedback on the book and for highlighting the KID move-order issue in your earlier post. I’ve been mulling over this line and wanted to post some thoughts and a recommendation.

After 1 c4 Nf6 2 Nc3 g6 3 e4 d6 4 d4 Bg7 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be2 Na6 7 0-0, the move 7...c6 was championed by GM Glek in the late 90s/early 2000s and played occasionally by others. It is indeed rare (played in around 5% of games after 7 0-0), but I agree it is helpful to give advice on what to do if Black delays ...e7-e5. Now White often plays 8 Be3 or 8 Re1 which usually transpose to mainline 6...Na6 lines – if White was prepared to enter those anyway there is less incentive to vary.

White actually has a wide choice of other decent moves however, for example 8 h3, 8 Qc2 and 8 Rb1, but the one I like is 8 Bf4!?. This is an unusual placement for the bishop in the KID, but is justified by the knight on a6. If Black wants to play ...e7-e5 he needs to move  the f6-knight, meanwhile White will develop quickly by playing Qd1-d2 and centralizing the rooks. In the game Shchekachev-Glek (St. Petersburg 1998), Black played 8...Nh5 but ended up worse. Later, he tried 8...Nd7 in Chuchelov-Glek (Bad Zwesten 2000) and Hoffmann-Glek (Bundesliga 2004) but White was again slightly better from the opening. Also, in MegaBase, there are some instructive annotations by King and Chuchelov to the first two of these games.

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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #22 - 02/20/17 at 00:00:03
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CaptainCarrot wrote on 02/13/17 at 21:22:49:
Stigma wrote on 02/13/17 at 20:18:42:
Has anyone had a chance to study this and try out the lines yet?

I'm thinking of picking it up for the KID and Symmetrical English parts (I don't play 1.c4 much). In particular, are Cummings' Symmetrical English lines compatible with a 1.Nf3 move order?


Yes it's compatible with the 1.Nf3 move order, as he recommends 1.c4 c5 2.Nf3


As posted, there are important gaps in his coverage.
  

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Reply #21 - 02/13/17 at 21:22:49
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Stigma wrote on 02/13/17 at 20:18:42:
Has anyone had a chance to study this and try out the lines yet?

I'm thinking of picking it up for the KID and Symmetrical English parts (I don't play 1.c4 much). In particular, are Cummings' Symmetrical English lines compatible with a 1.Nf3 move order?


Yes it's compatible with the 1.Nf3 move order, as he recommends 1.c4 c5 2.Nf3
  
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Reply #20 - 02/13/17 at 20:18:42
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Has anyone had a chance to study this and try out the lines yet?

I'm thinking of picking it up for the KID and Symmetrical English parts (I don't play 1.c4 much). In particular, are Cummings' Symmetrical English lines compatible with a 1.Nf3 move order?

I've been looking at The Fianchetto Solution, but am struggling to find any mention of what happens if Black plays it like (any kind of) Symmetrical English in that book.
  

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Reply #19 - 01/25/17 at 16:41:39
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I like this book by Mr. Cummings, it is refreshing divergence from the usual 1.c4 followed by g3 offerings. However I noticed in the KID section that the following move order was missing: 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 g6 3.e4 d6 4.d4 Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be2 Na6 7.0-0 and now the book does not consider 7...c6, which poses some problems for readers following this repertoire. Essentially black holds back e5 for a move and White now has to think for himself, and before someone comments that c6 is rare, let me add that this move has been used by very strong players and it usually transposes to the normal 6...Na6 lines, however the recommended Petrosian setup is no longer viable. 

Perhaps Everyman will publish an update to rectify this omission in the future.

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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #18 - 12/24/16 at 14:41:25
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While I also enjoy the options to transpose to non-fianchetto 1.d4 variations the variation 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 Bb4 5.Qc2 worries me. With colours reversed White does extremely well: compare 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.Bb5 Qc7 5.O-O Nf6.
Indeed drawing rate is high in the 4.Bb4 5.Qc2 variation.
  

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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #17 - 12/23/16 at 18:55:25
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befuddled wrote on 12/13/16 at 18:44:03:
Just ordered this today. Hee hee!


I have order too! I hope to received it as soon as possible!
  
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Reply #16 - 12/13/16 at 18:44:03
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Just ordered this today. Hee hee!
  
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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #15 - 11/25/16 at 10:30:51
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PDF extract is up. Looks good!

In short, there is no early g3, which facilitates transpositions to d4. I have to say that I'm happy to see opportunities to transpose to non-fianchetto d4 lines. This seems to crop up in the suggested repertoire, with transpositions into the semi-Tarrasch and Petrosian King's Indian.

Looks great from the extract. I'll likely wait until the eBook is released before pulling the trigger.
  
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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #14 - 11/24/16 at 23:51:48
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Why not take advantage of the central majority straight away with [1 c4 d5?! 2 cxd5 Qxd5] 3 Nc3 followed by d4 and e4? If 3...Qa5, then simply 4 d4 Nf6 5 Nf3 and then Bd2 at some point looks like it gives White a big advantage.
  
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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #13 - 11/24/16 at 18:37:29
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Nc3 can't be stopped and will be played sooner or later winning a tempo. The question was whether to fianchetto or not in this open position.
  
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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #12 - 11/24/16 at 18:26:57
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In the case of 1. c4 d5 2. cd Qxd5, I wonder why you wouldn't be inclined to play 3. Nc3.
  
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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #11 - 11/24/16 at 17:56:07
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IM Cummings, out of interest does the book have a line against 1.c4 d5? Probably not very good but potentially annoying. I would probably play 2.cxd5 and aim for g3 gaining a tempo sooner or later on the Queen on d5. Potentially this doesn't fit in the books idea of not fianchettoing so curious to see what is recommended.
  
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Re: Cummings Everyman English Repertoire
Reply #10 - 11/21/16 at 23:36:21
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Basing an English repertoire product on non-g3 lines?  Having White transpose to other major openings (not English/Reti*) in a number of cases?  The horror!
(OK, that's what I imagine some will think, but not me.)


*random historical tidbit:  I was reminded of the late American IM Kim Commons referring to "my usual English-Reti junk."
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