Heya.

MW wrote on 07/14/19 at 18:47:01:

This is good to know. Somehow I suspect black will be fine after 11.Qa4 with accurate play though. Just looking at the position I think black looks flexible enough to warrant not having to come under continuous pressure. Playing the next half a dozen moves or so may not be so easy though.

Edit (this is the line for those who may wonder):
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.Nf3 c5 6.e5 Ng4 7.Bb5+ Bd7 8.Bxd7+ Qxd7 9.h3 cxd4 10.Qxd4 Nc6 11.Qa4

Leon_Trotsky wrote on 07/14/19 at 18:52:13:

6.Bd3 Nbd7 sure.
6.Be3 b6 Is mainline-ish and a pretty expected recommendation even if it has some dangers as well.

Leon_Trotsky wrote on 07/14/19 at 18:52:13:

Haha. Having played 6.Be3 a bit I sympathise with the white player

Leon_Trotsky wrote on 07/14/19 at 18:52:13:
Stigma wrote on 07/14/19 at 21:46:08:

Yer. Quickly. Although the games did not look so current tbh and I've only played:
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5. Nf3 0-0 6.Bd3 Na6 7.0-0 c5 8.d5 Bg4
in blitz.

Have a nice day.

Confused_by_Theory wrote on 07/14/19 at 15:55:55:


Are you talking about 6...Cbd7 against the Austrian Attack ¿ On the 6. Ae3 line he gives 6...b6 which is the main line. In Davies book, he gives I think 6...Cbd7, which is less crazy. Both sides need to know what they are doing in these lines though. I remember few years ago I played 6. Ae3 b6 against an attacking player, and he basically collapsed before move 15 because he had no idea what he was doing 

Did you see the extra database in his 2th DWD on 5...0-0 6. Ad3 Ca6 ¿ I would prefer to play that than the weird 6...Cbd7. Those files were very interesting, I remember there was this concept where White puts his bitchop on c4, Marin gave some lines where Black springs with ...Cb4, then if a3 simply leaves it en prise and develops, since ...axb4 cxb4 attacks both White's pieces on c3 and c4.

Hi.

So I've now also chugged down Marin's second DVD (aggresive lines). While interesting it was also somewhat filled with lines that do not have the best reputation. I don't think any major theoretical saves were presented though and I would play these lines only against weaker opposition.

Also it felt quite crazy to have these masses of sharp lines presented in like 6-14min video clips. I would need a detailed book or computer to want to play this stuff pretty much.

I'd say get the book and skip these DVD's unless you are interested in the presentation (which chess-wise was quite clear and interesting).

Have a nice day.

There is big difference in 2th DWD because he recommends 5...0-0 instead of 5...c5 against Austrian Attack.

I remember he also gave extra analysis files in that DWD. It was about the line 5...0-0 6. Ad3 Ca6 7. 0-0 c5 8. d5 Ag4, which is the same line that Davies recommends in his Pirc book. This setup is my favourite against Austrian Attack. It looks like some sort Classical Modern Benoni, except against 1. e4. In the actual DWD, he recommends 6...Cbd7, which is definitely not the main line.

I was expecting Marin to cover this line in his Pirc book. 5...c5 is theoretically fine for Black, but requires much memorisation and is more unintuitive compared to 5...0-0.

Yeah, you're right of course, for some reason I only thought about 3...Bg7 and not 3...d6.

True enough - but the Pirc transposition forces Black into early ...Bg7 lines, right?

Can't you just go 3...d5 - ?

Good evening.

Confused_by_Theory wrote on 03/13/18 at 01:41:17:
RdC wrote on 03/13/18 at 09:39:33:

Black definitely needs to meet it. My hope was that Marin instead would come up with some set of analysed lines where white is prevented from reaching the exact position after:
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 c6 5.Qd2 Nbd7 6.Nf3 Bg7 7.Bh6

Although then all of the following lines needed to be scrapped in the repertoire:
a) 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 c6 5.Qd2 Nbd7 6.Nf3 Bg7 7.Bh6
b) 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be3 c6 6.Qd2 Nbd7 7.Bh6
c) 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bf4 c6 5.Qd2 Nbd7 6.Nf3 Bg7 7.Bh6
d) 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bg5 0-0 6.Qd2 c6 7.Bh6 Nbd7
e) 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bf4 c6 6.Qd2 Nbd7 7.Bh6

In some ways the sheer amount of rethinking needed makes it understandable that Marin did what he did (strengthening the old line). Still seems to me like there are clear alternatives to at least a couple of these lines so maybe it is not a complete impossibility to piece an alternative set of replies open.

Have a nice night.