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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #80 - 08/16/18 at 19:08:01
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I appreciate the feedback, thank you!
  
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Reply #79 - 08/15/18 at 19:50:40
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That's great , much appreciated Eric! Your book is excellent and I have been getting really good positions against some strong players.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #78 - 08/15/18 at 15:18:21
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Krudos wrote on 08/15/18 at 11:57:11:
In the Modern Benoni main line (Chapter 4), Black can play an early Nh7, for example, 9...a6 10 a4 h6 11 Be3 Nh7 . Any views on how White should play eg 12 Nge2 Nd7 13 Nc1 or Nd1?


Did I not cover this in the book?  Perhaps it was trimmed, as it's not very common. 

An early ...Nh7 does protect the h-pawn indirectly, but doesn't make much sense unless Black wants to play ...f7-f5.  For that reason, I'd suggest 13.Nf4 Ne5 14.Be2, when Black's best move is probably putting the knight back where it belongs with 14...Nf6! (14...f5? 15.Ne6! similar to other positions in the book).  After 15.b3 White has scored very well in my database: 3 wins and 1 draw, and three of those games were between players rated 2450+.  The one drawn game was a monumental defensive effort by Black who was fortunate to draw after being down an Exchange.  I notice that the computer often wants Black to play a later ...g6-g5, but that's obviously risky in a game between two humans and I'd prefer White here.

Going back a bit, a semi-waiting move like 13.a5!? is interesting, to get more information before committing the knight.  It also avoids the possibility of 13.Nf4 Qa5!?, which Black might want to look into.  12.a5!? is also not stupid.

I hope that helps!
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #77 - 08/15/18 at 11:57:11
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In the Modern Benoni main line (Chapter 4), Black can play an early Nh7, for example, 9...a6 10 a4 h6 11 Be3 Nh7 . Any views on how White should play eg 12 Nge2 Nd7 13 Nc1 or Nd1?
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #76 - 03/04/18 at 17:41:09
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That's great! thanks.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #75 - 03/04/18 at 17:26:57
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befuddled wrote on 03/04/18 at 10:01:25:
ErictheRed wrote on 12/01/17 at 17:32:12:
Oh yes, the book came to 90 pages on 6...Nc6, mostly devoted to the Panno variation, but there is plenty of space to cover many deviations, such as 7...e5?! and 7...Re8?!. 

As an aside, ...h6 generally shouldn't be combined with 6...Nc6.


What do we do against 6...h6 7. Be3 Nc6 8. Nge2 e5? Only 8...a6 is in the book as far as I can tell.


Play 9.d5! (this is almost always our response to ...e5), after which White has a 73% score in my database.  Play should be very similar to Game 4 and the notes, though even better for White because Qd1-d2 will force Black to spend a tempo defending the h-pawn.  You could compare the line to 6...h6 7.Be3 e5?! 8.d5! as well; again White has an improved position, because compared to that variation White wins a tempo by attacking the c6-knight.

In fact I don't see what Black is going to do with the knight, since he can't play it to d4.  Going to e7 would be a worse version of my Game 4, so that only leaves the a5 square.  Here's an old game from a world champion:




And here's a more recent example:


  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #74 - 03/04/18 at 10:01:25
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ErictheRed wrote on 12/01/17 at 17:32:12:
Oh yes, the book came to 90 pages on 6...Nc6, mostly devoted to the Panno variation, but there is plenty of space to cover many deviations, such as 7...e5?! and 7...Re8?!. 

As an aside, ...h6 generally shouldn't be combined with 6...Nc6.


What do we do against 6...h6 7. Be3 Nc6 8. Nge2 e5? Only 8...a6 is in the book as far as I can tell.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #73 - 02/22/18 at 05:30:00
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Thanks Max!  Here's another review that I just noticed:
https://chesscafe.com/book-reviews/the-modern-samisch-by-eric-montany/
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #72 - 02/14/18 at 02:10:12
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I really like this review.   It made me want to go out to get the book and think about the explanations and lines he gives vs. Sabotage the Gruenfeld, which I like a lot.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #71 - 02/13/18 at 18:12:11
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I was pleasantly surprised to discover this review, and I'm not affiliated with the author or organization in any way:

http://georgiachessnews.com/2018/02/10/review-the-modern-samisch-by-eric-montany...
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #70 - 12/12/17 at 20:30:42
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13 Bxf6 I assume; Sadler had previously tried 13 h5 back in 1994 it looks like.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #69 - 12/12/17 at 16:00:01
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What a gruesome hack! What was Sadler's improvement?
  

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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #68 - 12/11/17 at 16:33:56
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To whet the appetite, I have a wonderful recent game to share.  It's Matthew Sadler (who else?) with a great miniature over a young International Master:



Had this game been played just a month before, it would have found a place in the book!  The attacking plan is certainly analyzed, a refinement over some older games (most of them Sadler's) from the 90s. 

I'm not sure how long Sadler sat on his improvement before having a chance to play it, but I discovered the idea on my own about a decade ago.  Since I've taken more than five years off of over-the-board play now, I haven't had a chance to play it outside of blitz yet, either.  It's just one example of the very many improvements over accepted, published theory that can be found in the book.

Happy King's Indian slaying!
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #67 - 12/01/17 at 17:32:12
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Oh yes, the book came to 90 pages on 6...Nc6, mostly devoted to the Panno variation, but there is plenty of space to cover many deviations, such as 7...e5?! and 7...Re8?!. 

As an aside, ...h6 generally shouldn't be combined with 6...Nc6.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #66 - 12/01/17 at 12:12:16
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Hi Eric,

Interesting the file is gone but basically I was wondering if  lines where Black avoids a ill-timed h6 move are covered such as.

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 f3 o-o 6 Bg5 Nc6 7 Nge2 Re8 ?

Cheers, AJ
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #65 - 11/30/17 at 22:34:10
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Hi RivertonKnight,
RivertonKnight wrote on 11/26/17 at 15:30:32:
I looked at this correspondence game last night, I wonder if this is the main line game for White? I do like the ease in which White gains the advantage if Black falters in the "The Steiner Attack". Your book is on the Christmas list ... although I might cheer for the Black pieces more Smiley

Cheers, AJ


Hi AJ, I don't entirely understand your question, because I don't see any players or other info attached to your file.  Is  that a correspondence game or a line of analysis?  9...Re8 is fairly uncommon (though it's in the book) and doesn't score as well as 9...Bd7, which I take as the main line.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #64 - 11/26/17 at 15:30:32
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I looked at this correspondence game last night, I wonder if this is the main line game for White? I do like the ease in which White gains the advantage if Black falters in the "The Steiner Attack". Your book is on the Christmas list ... although I might cheer for the Black pieces more Smiley

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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #63 - 11/23/17 at 17:35:00
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Novocane wrote on 11/22/17 at 12:23:54:
Got my copy too, haven’t been this excited for a book since, hmm, Harry Potter? Well worth the wait indeed!

Wow, that's high praise indeed!  Funnily enough, I just received my own copies Tuesday evening.
Novocane wrote on 11/22/17 at 12:23:54:
Also usefull to see his own efforts, some very sweet and instructive games by the man himself are included.

Now you're being too kind, but I hope that the games of my own are instructive.  Here's a little excerpt from a game of mine that didn't have a place in the book, but I've always liked the idea that I came up with.  It's a good illustration of how powerful the e4-e5 push can be, and some of the unique possibilities that the bishop on g5 gives.  I had just played 12.Rad1!? with a specific idea to counter 12...b5:


Novocane wrote on 11/22/17 at 12:23:54:
So I'm really enjoying it, and last night I played my first official (club) game with it...

Nice work in your own game!  Watching the King's Indian go down in flames always brings me great pleasure Smiley.  I truly believe that most amateurs who play the King's Indian, or at least most club players, have not properly assessed their strengths and weaknesses.  They play it because they want brilliant attacking games like Bronstein's and Kasparov's, but aren't often able to accurately time their counterplay or that necessary sacrifice.
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #62 - 11/23/17 at 17:25:01
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Scarblac wrote on 11/22/17 at 22:10:13:
Any idea when the ebook version will be out? I love Everyman's multiple-format ebooks.


Unfortunately I don't know, sorry.  I can't imagine that it would be too much longer.
  
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Reply #61 - 11/22/17 at 22:10:13
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Any idea when the ebook version will be out? I love Everyman's multiple-format ebooks.
  
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Reply #60 - 11/22/17 at 12:23:54
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Got my copy too, haven’t been this excited for a book since, hmm, Harry Potter? Well worth the wait indeed! Haven't studied it in depth yet, mostly been reading it on the way to work or home (usually being the only one not glued to a phone…)

What I like best about the book is the clear explanation of the ideas, and the 'personal feel'. You can tell the author really loves the game, and especially the Bg5 line. It's nice to read how he arrived at certain moves and recommendations, what games influenced that decision etc. Also usefull to see his own efforts, some very sweet and instructive games by the man himself are included.

So I'm really enjoying it, and last night I played my first official (club) game with it. I already managed to apply some (very basic) ideas I got from just browsing the book and scored an easy victory. Quite a one-sided game but I'll share it anyway:

1. d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f3 e5 6.Nge2 0-0 7.Bg5 With trembling fingers, well, there it goes all the way to g5, that felt fresh!

…h6 8.Be3 exd4 9.Nxd4 Re8 10. Qd2 Nbd7 The book warned me about Bxh6? Nxe4! tricks so…

11.0-0-0 Kh7 Another thing I learned is that including h6 Be3 Kh7 usually doesn’t improve the black kingside at all. At my modest level I can expect that sometimes, which will be fun. The Saemisch can make for nice, long maneuvering games, but sometimes it’s just old school slaying the dragon. Meanwhile, black never came close to countering (or even finishing his development.)

12.g4 c6 13. g5 and here I could smoothly complete the attack and be home in time to watch The walking dead.

…Ng8 14.gxh6 Nxh6 15.h4 Nf6 16.h5 Nxh5 17.Bd3 Qa5 18.Rdg1 Qc5 19.Nde2 Qa5 20.Rg5 Re5 21.Rg2 Re7 22.Rgh2 Ng8 23.Rxh5+ gxh5 24.e5+ 

After all the fine Kings Indian books written for black in the past years I feel the tide has turned Wink I have tons of studying to do with the book, but I already feel comfortable with the various setups and ideas I saw. Warmly recommended!
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Reply #59 - 11/12/17 at 16:14:00
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Thanks for the kind words, Nestor!
  
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Reply #58 - 11/11/17 at 18:54:36
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I've got my copy and I think it's terrific. Nobody who plays the King's Indian or the Modern Benoni as Black is allowed to buy a copy, as I really need to improve my stats with the White pieces. Congratulations to ErictheRed on a fine piece of work.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #57 - 11/08/17 at 11:31:05
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I assume the reference to the "en pessant" rule in the "Introduction" (author's foreword, surely?) is a typo rather than an obscure joke. There's also a formatting error on the contents page which any semi-competent proof-reader would have spotted in a flash. I know the chess content will be excellent, and I'll probably buy the book anyway, but I do find this sort of thing annoying. It shows a lack of respect for reader and author alike.
  
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Reply #56 - 10/25/17 at 13:33:27
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I am impressed that you wrote the introduction in November 2017.
  
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Reply #55 - 10/18/17 at 21:09:09
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I'm glad they have updated their website and are close to publishing this now. I had emailed them last month asking when this and the planned book on the Schliemann was coming out and didnt get a reply.
  

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Reply #54 - 10/18/17 at 07:11:04
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I'm a bit of a chess book nerd and I tend to check the main publishers' sites very often. And I remember a previous Everyman book by a user of this forum that has his own name misspelled on the binding  Roll Eyes , so I thought I'd better mention it...  Smiley
  
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Reply #53 - 10/17/17 at 15:17:59
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I appreciate that you guys are following this so closely!   The typo was noticed and corrected immediately; I think that it was visible online for less than a day.

I'm new to this whole process, but my understanding is that the book is now completely finished--all typesetting, editing, cover art, etc. It's at the printers now and will be available in November.

I'm looking forward to hearing what my fellow Chesspubbers think of it, so do share your thoughts later!
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Reply #52 - 10/17/17 at 12:01:49
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Cover now up on the Everyman homepage!

But you should make sure that they fix the typo in the opening name in the title...
  
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Reply #51 - 10/02/17 at 20:39:47
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Novocane wrote on 09/26/17 at 09:01:37:
Looking forward to this book so much Smiley I've been struggling with white versus the KI in several systems. After Schandorf's nice book I focussed on the Saemisch which helped a lot.

Now a full book on it will give me more (and updated) knowledge. Gratz on the effort & i hope the book will sell really well!       


Thanks, hopefully this book will be a big help!  It should be out very soon now...
  
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Reply #50 - 09/26/17 at 09:01:37
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Looking forward to this book so much Smiley I've been struggling with white versus the KI in several systems. After Schandorf's nice book I focussed on the Saemisch which helped a lot.

Now a full book on it will give me more (and updated) knowledge. Gratz on the effort & i hope the book will sell really well!
  
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Reply #49 - 08/22/17 at 13:35:10
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ErictheRed wrote on 08/22/17 at 02:06:57:
Yes TN, I do think that 6.Bg5 Nc6 7.Nge2 a6 8.Qd2 Rb8 9.Rc1 is quite promising for White, though he has to know what he's doing as some lines get sharp.  I cover both that and 9.d5 in the book, though 9.Rc1! is my main recommendation.

I finally got my hands on a copy of Kotronias' book, and it does look very good.  However after going through it, there's nothing inside that makes me want to change any of my recommendations.  I'll wait until readers can get their hands on my own book to answer particular questions.  I hope that it's available soon!


I'm happy for you that your book is nearly ready to be published.  You've had this project in the works for some time and with your extensive experience and understanding of the 6.Bg5 lines I am sure it will be a powerful addition to the White arsenal!  Of course, this means more work for me as a player of the King's Indian on the Black side....  Sad
  
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Reply #48 - 08/22/17 at 02:06:57
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Yes TN, I do think that 6.Bg5 Nc6 7.Nge2 a6 8.Qd2 Rb8 9.Rc1 is quite promising for White, though he has to know what he's doing as some lines get sharp.  I cover both that and 9.d5 in the book, though 9.Rc1! is my main recommendation.

I finally got my hands on a copy of Kotronias' book, and it does look very good.  However after going through it, there's nothing inside that makes me want to change any of my recommendations.  I'll wait until readers can get their hands on my own book to answer particular questions.  I hope that it's available soon!
  
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Reply #47 - 08/21/17 at 07:30:48
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I don't have either Eric's or Kotronias's book (that will change soon Wink ), but I'll note that one promising direction for White in my view is to follow the game Zhao-Toth, Canberra 2007, with this a4/Bb5 idea. For some reason it hasn't been more popular.

Perhaps it was covered earlier, but would you agree that after 6.Bg5 Nc6, 7.Nge2 a6 8.Qd2 Rb8 9.Rc1 is quite promising for White? I was also just thinking whether 8...Na5 could be played with the bishop on g5, though I don't really trust it.
  

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Reply #46 - 08/03/17 at 19:30:10
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MarinFan wrote on 08/02/17 at 14:33:43:
"Does he continue 10.a4 h6?  I need to just buy a copy. "
Sorry I got busy with work, think continues with 10...nb-d7 but don't have copy to hand for awhile Embarrassed


Actually, it is 10.a4 h6! (Kotronias's annotation).
  
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Reply #45 - 08/02/17 at 15:33:48
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No worries.  That's an old line, and unless he has some new idea that I'm not aware of, I think that it's established to be a little better for White but certainly playable.  I also have some improvements for the White side, so we'll see.  Funny that I haven't gone out of the way to look up Kotronias' latest recommendation; I was certainly diligent when writing the book, but now that it's completed I'm forcing myself to step away from it!

This 6.Bg5 system is often overlooked; Dejan Bojkov treated it with respect in his Modernized book whereas Bologan, for instance, has been giving the exact same line in his last 2-3 Black repertoire books, quoting an old game from the 80s that just winds up with White being better.  I saw his new book on the shelf recently and was disappointed that nothing had changed in this chapter from his 2009 book.

As an aside, I had a nice email exchange with Matthew Sadler recently, who said that he was looking forward to the book and that he always wondered why this wasn't more popular!  I didn't realize it, but Matthew said that he'd been Joel Lautier's second and had taught this 6.Bg5 Samisch to him, with which he'd been able to put even Kasparov under a lot of pressure.  Of course I'd seen the Lautier games (some are in my book), but I hadn't realized that Sadler had worked with him.
  
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Reply #44 - 08/02/17 at 14:33:43
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"Does he continue 10.a4 h6?  I need to just buy a copy. "
Sorry I got busy with work, think continues with 10...nb-d7 but don't have copy to hand for awhile Embarrassed
  
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Reply #43 - 07/24/17 at 18:07:47
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I've learned that a good book is always worth waiting for....and I'm looking forward to this one!  If it is September or October....I'm happy to wait!
  
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Reply #42 - 07/23/17 at 22:07:50
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I don't play the Saemisch myself (Makogonov with White, and not KID with Black). So I have not seen that the author of the book was our Eric.

So .... Congratulations on the job. Seeing your own name as an author in a book by a great publisher like this should be very nice. Well done!
  
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snakebite wrote on 07/23/17 at 09:04:15:
The last time I looked the Everyman website had a link to Houska's Caro Kann book excerpt instead!


I've encountered such things (wrong .pdf sample, unavailable .pdf sample, cover image of book X on a page seemingly for book Y) a number of times ...their website seems to be a bit of a mess.
  
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Unfortunately I don't know, though I've been told that it should be published in early September, so I think that an excerpt should be up soon.  I know that a prominent GM author and editor for Everyman, who was going to be working on my book, left the company (on good terms) just before I submitted my manuscript.  So I suspect that they were down an editor for a short time.  I really wanted to have it out by this summer for all of those summer events that people play in, but such is life.  And I turned my manuscript in so late that I can't complain about any delays on the publisher's end!
  
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Any idea as to when a PDF excerpt will be available? The last time I looked the Everyman website had a link to Houska's Caro Kann book excerpt instead!
  
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MarinFan wrote on 07/20/17 at 10:48:33:
Kotronias suprisingly doesn't use 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 0-0 5.f3 c5 6.d5 d6 7.Bg5 e6 8.Qd2 h6, when I thought white couldn't prevent transposing to lines with be3 and h5, instead considers 8...pxp 9c4xd5 a6.


Does he continue 10.a4 h6?  I need to just buy a copy.

There are some subtle move order nuances here that I cover in my book, depending on the exact lines each side is trying to reach or avoid.  I cover both 10.a4 and 10.Nge2!? for White in detail in mine, so the reader can choose to play whichever one suits them more, or mix and match as I have over the years.
  
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Kotronias suprisingly doesn't use 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 0-0 5.f3 c5 6.d5 d6 7.Bg5 e6 8.Qd2 h6, when I thought white couldn't prevent transposing to lines with be3 and h5, instead considers 8...pxp 9c4xd5 a6.
  
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Congratulations, Eric, from a former student who saw the first few pages back when Smiley


Thank you so much!  And check your email Smiley.
  
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Congratulations, Eric, from a former student who saw the first few pages back when Smiley
  
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Though I mention some places where White can consider playing x...h6 y.Bxh6, in general I avoid those positions because if Black knows what he's doing he can avoid them completely (as Topnotch points out).
  
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kylemeister wrote on 06/11/17 at 21:23:09:
But 8...h6 9. Be3 ed 10. cd just transposes to 8...ed 9. cd h6 10. Be3, so I don't get the relevance of that first line.


In this move-order 8...exd5 9.cxd5 h6 White can now play 10.Bxh6 instead of 10.Be3 after which, as expressed in my previous post, its not clear to me that Black fully equalises. In any case playing 8...h6 first makes the issue moot.

Eric's book sounds interesting, looks like I may have to pick that one up as well.
  

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I like the Saemisch and am curious what the author plays against 1...d5 and other 1...Nf6 lines.


I don't have any overall system or scheme of development that I play against everything.  For instance unlike the "Wojo's Weapons" series of books, I don't always fianchetto.  But I play the Catalan and related lines against ...e6 lines, 3.e4 against the QGA, and against the Grunfeld I play various lines of the Exchange variation or 4.Bg5 depending on mood.  Mostly the Exchange, though.  I also often play 3.Nc3 against the Slav. 

My choices all make tons of sense to me, but there's no single theme uniting them all.  Which I think is the best approach to openings: you should treat each position concretely and specifically.  I also think that in general, you should try not to give your opponent what he wants.
  
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Stigma wrote on 06/11/17 at 22:12:32:
TopNotch' 13...Nxe4 does look strong. I guess that means White should either allow ...b5 or prefer Ng3 to Nc1 in that specific move order? Though ...Nxe4 might even be playable one move earlier, without 12..a6 13.a4.

I have played the Sämisch a few times, but usually against lower-rated opponents where I could get by without really knowing the theory. I really need this book...

ErictheRed wrote on 06/09/17 at 17:02:14:
In the end I might not want to or need to change anything; Kotronias obviously hasn't seen my analysis, either! 

[...]

I have a lot of improvements over older analysis from players like Sadler, Lautier, Kasparov, Dreev, etc. in my book; obviously I'm aided by strong engines, and every line was thoroughly checked, so I'm not worried.

I like the attitude!


Obviously White has to avoid the position after 13...Nxe4! that Toppy gave.  I first discovered that possibility about 3 years ago while looking through a correspondence database and was very surprised by it; it's since been published in other places (I was hoping to be the first to reveal it to the general public, but was too slow). 

White has plenty of other ways to pose Black problems, though the specifics depend on move order.  In the move order that Topnotch gave, Carlsen showed my preferred method, though I offer multiple solutions most of the time.  White should actually not be in a rush to put the knight on g3 in many lines; I do need to refer people to the book at some point though, I wrote it so that I didn't have to write hundreds of posts on here explaining everything Wink.   
  
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I like the Saemisch and am curious what the author plays against 1...d5 and other 1...Nf6 lines.
  
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Reply #29 - 06/11/17 at 22:12:32
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TopNotch' 13...Nxe4 does look strong. I guess that means White should either allow ...b5 or prefer Ng3 to Nc1 in that specific move order? Though ...Nxe4 might even be playable one move earlier, without 12..a6 13.a4.

I have played the Sämisch a few times, but usually against lower-rated opponents where I could get by without really knowing the theory. I really need this book...

ErictheRed wrote on 06/09/17 at 17:02:14:
In the end I might not want to or need to change anything; Kotronias obviously hasn't seen my analysis, either! 

[...]

I have a lot of improvements over older analysis from players like Sadler, Lautier, Kasparov, Dreev, etc. in my book; obviously I'm aided by strong engines, and every line was thoroughly checked, so I'm not worried.

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But 8...h6 9. Be3 ed 10. cd just transposes to 8...ed 9. cd h6 10. Be3, so I don't get the relevance of that first line.
  
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ErictheRed wrote on 06/11/17 at 00:20:10:
TopNotch wrote on 06/10/17 at 17:01:12:
Regarding 6.Bg5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Qd2 exd5 (I think 8...h6! is more accurate here and should be preferred). Do you reach the same conclusion in your review.


How do you intend to follow up?  There are many different systems possible; Black can play a quick ...h6-h5 like Bologan recommended in his repertoire book from a few years ago.  Play is also different depending on whether Black plays ...a6 or not. 

Because of numerous transpositional possibilities, I've essentially divided the Benoni chapter into lines where Black plays ...a6 but not ...h6, ...a6 with ...h6 (but not ...h5), ...h6 and ...h5 without ...a6, etc, etc.  Move order is important; a game from the current world champion in this line contains an important nuance for White, for instance.  It's all a little confusing; see my book for details, of course!

But I think that I probably agree with you, Topnotch.


I had this kinda follow up in mind: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 0-0 5.f3 c5 6.d5 d6 7.Bg5 e6 8.Qd2 h6 9.Be3 exd5 10.cxd5 Re8 11.Nge2 Nbd7 12.Nc1 a6 13.a4 Nxe4!=/+

Essentially if Black can play 8...h6 without any downside then he should do so, as it could win a tempo in some lines and in general provides Black with more tasty possibilities as illustrated in the above example.

Another compelling reason to play h6 on move 8 rather than 9 is that it completely neutralises Bxh6 ideas, after 9...h6 10.Bxh6 it is not 100% clear to me that Black completely equalises, whereas after 8...h6 9.Bxh6 Black has the convincing rejoinder: 9...Nxe4 10.Nxe4 Qh4+ 11.g3 Qxh6 12.Qxh6 Bxh6 13.Nxd6 Na6! = This key idea does not work if you include 8...exd5 9.cxd5 as it would be well met by Bxa6.

Kotronias' thoughts on these lines would be interesting to comment on, but that will have to wait till I have his new KID book in my hands.
  

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Regarding 6.Bg5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Qd2 exd5 (I think 8...h6! is more accurate here and should be preferred). Do you reach the same conclusion in your review.


How do you intend to follow up?  There are many different systems possible; Black can play a quick ...h6-h5 like Bologan recommended in his repertoire book from a few years ago.  Play is also different depending on whether Black plays ...a6 or not. 

Because of numerous transpositional possibilities, I've essentially divided the Benoni chapter into lines where Black plays ...a6 but not ...h6, ...a6 with ...h6 (but not ...h5), ...h6 and ...h5 without ...a6, etc, etc.  Move order is important; a game from the current world champion in this line contains an important nuance for White, for instance.  It's all a little confusing; see my book for details, of course!

But I think that I probably agree with you, Topnotch.
  
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Stigma wrote on 06/08/17 at 19:41:04:
Kotronias' final King's Indian tome on the Sämisch and various others, from the Black side of course, is just out.

Eric, will you be able to have a look at it and (if at all necessary) squeeze in a few extra lines where the books cross paths? Book reviewers often mention this advantage of having the other book as a source when comparing books for White and for Black on the same line.


Hmmm, I'm not sure.  I submitted the final manuscript nearly two months ago, so I suspect that it's going to the printers very soon.  I could email Byron to see.  I haven't seen Kotronias' analysis yet, and it may take a little while to get my hands on it.  In the end I might not want to or need to change anything; Kotronias obviously hasn't seen my analysis, either! 

From his Table of Contents page, it looks like he goes for one of the main lines of 6.Bg5 c5 7.e5 e6 8.Qd2 ed 9.cd, but I have no idea which one.  I'm of the opinion that the best players in the world from the later 90s (back when 6.Bg5 was extremely popular, though it still has a devoted following) were correct in thinking that this is Black's theoretically best continuation.  I have a lot of improvements over older analysis from players like Sadler, Lautier, Kasparov, Dreev, etc. in my book; obviously I'm aided by strong engines, and every line was thoroughly checked, so I'm not worried.

If I can't get my hands on Kotronias' work before my book goes to publication, I'll of course be happy to discuss lines here.


Regarding 6.Bg5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Qd2 exd5 (I think 8...h6! is more accurate here and should be preferred). Do you reach the same conclusion in your review.
  

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Stigma wrote on 06/08/17 at 19:41:04:
Kotronias' final King's Indian tome on the Sämisch and various others, from the Black side of course, is just out.

Eric, will you be able to have a look at it and (if at all necessary) squeeze in a few extra lines where the books cross paths? Book reviewers often mention this advantage of having the other book as a source when comparing books for White and for Black on the same line.


Hmmm, I'm not sure.  I submitted the final manuscript nearly two months ago, so I suspect that it's going to the printers very soon.  I could email Byron to see.  I haven't seen Kotronias' analysis yet, and it may take a little while to get my hands on it.  In the end I might not want to or need to change anything; Kotronias obviously hasn't seen my analysis, either! 

From his Table of Contents page, it looks like he goes for one of the main lines of 6.Bg5 c5 7.e5 e6 8.Qd2 ed 9.cd, but I have no idea which one.  I'm of the opinion that the best players in the world from the later 90s (back when 6.Bg5 was extremely popular, though it still has a devoted following) were correct in thinking that this is Black's theoretically best continuation.  I have a lot of improvements over older analysis from players like Sadler, Lautier, Kasparov, Dreev, etc. in my book; obviously I'm aided by strong engines, and every line was thoroughly checked, so I'm not worried.

If I can't get my hands on Kotronias' work before my book goes to publication, I'll of course be happy to discuss lines here.
  
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Kotronias' final King's Indian tome on the Sämisch and various others, from the Black side of course, is just out.

Eric, will you be able to have a look at it and (if at all necessary) squeeze in a few extra lines where the books cross paths? Book reviewers often mention this advantage of having the other book as a source when comparing books for White and for Black on the same line.
  

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Top 20ish at least yes, with maybe a bit of potential to add. Like McShane I guess. Just how it is of course, better opportunities for them elsewhere.
  
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ErictheRed wrote on 05/28/17 at 22:03:00:
kylemeister wrote on 05/25/17 at 05:25:23:
hmm, 2680 as a forty-something hobbyist?  Didn't really expect that one.


He's a hobbyist now, but I think that he was quite serious/professional for a while when younger.


Very much so. I think his retiring was a serious blow to our Chess Olympiad hopes. I was really surprised he gave up chess full time when he did (i was much younger and nieve then Wink ) and was a little sad as he was my favourite player at the time. I might be completely wrong, but i thought he may have been around top 20 in the world at some point?...

When i started playing chess at University, i bumped into him at a local tournament and briefly got to talk with him, he struck me as a really nice guy.

  

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ErictheRed wrote on 05/28/17 at 22:03:00:
He's a hobbyist now, but I think that he was quite serious/professional for a while when younger.


Indeed; I didn't expect his rating to be higher now than it was then.
  
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hmm, 2680 as a forty-something hobbyist?  Didn't really expect that one.


He's a hobbyist now, but I think that he was quite serious/professional for a while when younger.
  
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Bibs wrote on 05/25/17 at 00:14:16:
He's been looking like a steamroller of late, and his rating shows inexorable rise.


hmm, 2680 as a forty-something hobbyist?  Didn't really expect that one.
  
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Bibs wrote on 05/25/17 at 00:14:16:
Do send him a note at his blog. Thoroughly nice chap, I'm sure he'll be delighted to hear about the book.
Nudge him a tad, maybe you could try him for a Foreword...?!


That's a good idea, I'll send him a note whether I solicit him for a Foreward or not.  I've learned a ton from his games in this variation over the years.

That particular game would not have made it into my book, as I only look at positions with ...Bg7 played via the King's Indian move order.  1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e6 4.Nc3 exd5 5.cxd5 g6 6.e4 d6 7.f3 a6 8.a4 h5 9.Bg5 Be7 is unusual, though interesting.  Typical Sokolov, maybe!
  
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ErictheRed wrote on 05/24/17 at 17:17:15:
Bibs wrote on 05/23/17 at 21:22:32:
I have a half memory of strong English GM Sadler specializing in this some years ago (before his hiatus), so his games will be well worth a look.


His ideas certainly feature prominently in the book, and he's played some nice games in this line in that last few years as well.


And here is a recent one, from his blog. He's been looking like a steamroller of late, and his rating shows inexorable rise.
http://matthewsadler.me.uk/defence/lessons-4ncl-may-2017/
Do send him a note at his blog. Thoroughly nice chap, I'm sure he'll be delighted to hear about the book.
Nudge him a tad, maybe you could try him for a Foreword...?!
  
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Bibs wrote on 05/23/17 at 21:22:32:
I have a half memory of strong English GM Sadler specializing in this some years ago (before his hiatus), so his games will be well worth a look.


His ideas certainly feature prominently in the book, and he's played some nice games in this line in the last few years as well.
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Exciting news indeed.  Congrats and looking forward to it.

  
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Bibs wrote on 05/23/17 at 21:22:32:
I have a half memory of strong English GM Sadler specializing in this some years ago (before his hiatus), so his games will be well worth a look.


That rings a bell. Did cox use one of Sadler's games in his d4 repertoire book in the Benoni chapter?
  

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ErictheRed wrote on 05/23/17 at 17:29:50:
Yes, this is my book!  I was waiting for Everyman to update the information on their website before announcing it here.

It's a complete repertoire starting with 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4, but also forms a complete repertoire against the Modern Benoni (and many other Benoni lines) by transposition.  I spend a lot of time on earlier deviations such as the 4...0-0, 5...c6, and 6...d5 system, and outline ways to play against the Modern and Pirc as well.

The recommendation is indeed my beloved 6.Bg5 in the Saemisch.  I'm not sure how detailed I want to get in this thread, but yes, I'm extremely happy with what I recommend against Benko options like 6.Bg5 a6 7.Qd2 Nbd7 intending ...c5 and ...b5.  I do not go very far down well-trodden paths there (and spend some time showing why I think White should avoid those lines).  Instead, I propose an earlier deviation that isn't mentioned at all in Bojkov's repertoire book, for instance. 

I submitted the final draft of the book about a month ago, so it's entirely complete from my end and is currently being edited and typeset, so it should be available soon.  My manuscript came to 375 pages, and while I'm not sure how big the final book will be, I want to point out that the book is dense and thoroughly researched. 

I can't wait to get a hard copy of this in my hands!


I just want to add my congratulations!

You are one of several regular posters on here who i look forward to reading when i log on, so although i dont play mainline d4 openings i will definitely be buying your book .

I have have fond memories of playing the Benoni some years ago, so that part of the book will be of interest to me and as I am back playing 1.e4, so i am keen to read up on the bits relevant to the pirc/modern. 


  

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Reply #10 - 05/23/17 at 21:57:20
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Speaking of old recollections, I guess the first time this f3+Bg5 stuff really came onto my radar screen is when Gulko used it to roll up an 18-year-old Kasparov.  The game was the subject of an instructional article in Chess Life in those days.
  
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Reply #9 - 05/23/17 at 21:22:32
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I have a half memory of strong English GM Sadler specializing in this some years ago (before his hiatus), so his games will be well worth a look.
  
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Reply #8 - 05/23/17 at 21:04:33
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Stigma wrote on 05/23/17 at 02:25:28:
Great news! Looking forward to this, surely a labor of love.


Yes, it is a labor of love. 

Often, passionate and dedicated amateurs produce wonderful works because love of their subject--not professional obligation--compels them to speak.  Readers will judge for themselves, but the few titled players who have seen it so far have been very complimentary, and I hope that this is one of those times.
  
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Reply #7 - 05/23/17 at 20:18:05
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Stigma wrote on 05/23/17 at 13:09:39:
Nice game!

Isn't this the line that has been called the Romanian variation or Suba variation, because it's been something of a national specialty? Don't have time to check now, but I think Marin comments on a game with it in the book Grandmaster Versus Amateur.

it's also recommended in Watson's Strategic Repertoire for White against both the KID (along with extra options) and the Modern Benoni.

Thanks - it was big fun and I was grateful for my gambit experiences.
Actually I got the idea from someone here on chesspub mentioning the line in Watson's book.
Indeed I have thought of calling it the Suba Attack. He is a GM since 1978 and that says something. I only know his name because of an article by Leon Pliester in the 1980's. Unfortunately Suba and his compatriots seems to have preferred exd5 iso cxd5 whenever they got the chance, so I'm not sure.
  

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Reply #6 - 05/23/17 at 17:29:50
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Yes, this is my book!  I was waiting for Everyman to update the information on their website before announcing it here.

It's a complete repertoire starting with 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4, but also forms a complete repertoire against the Modern Benoni (and many other Benoni lines) by transposition.  I spend a lot of time on earlier deviations such as the 4...0-0, 5...c6, and 6...d5 system, and outline ways to play against the Modern and Pirc as well.

The recommendation is indeed my beloved 6.Bg5 in the Saemisch.  I'm not sure how detailed I want to get in this thread, but yes, I'm extremely happy with what I recommend against Benko options like 6.Bg5 a6 7.Qd2 Nbd7 intending ...c5 and ...b5.  I do not go very far down well-trodden paths there (and spend some time showing why I think White should avoid those lines).  Instead, I propose an earlier deviation that isn't mentioned at all in Bojkov's repertoire book, for instance. 

I submitted the final draft of the book about a month ago, so it's entirely complete from my end and is currently being edited and typeset, so it should be available soon.  My manuscript came to 375 pages, and while I'm not sure how big the final book will be, I want to point out that the book is dense and thoroughly researched. 

I can't wait to get a hard copy of this in my hands!
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Nice game!

Isn't this the line that has been called the Romanian variation or Suba variation, because it's been something of a national specialty? Don't have time to check now, but I think Marin comments on a game with it in the book Grandmaster Versus Amateur.

it's also recommended in Watson's Strategic Repertoire for White against both the KID (along with extra options) and the Modern Benoni.
  

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Reply #4 - 05/23/17 at 12:13:50
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I'd rather have a book on the Two Bishops Variation (does anyone know a better name?) 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.h3 O-O 6.Bg5 with Bd3 to follow. The nice thing is it can be played against the Modern and Old Benoni as well:

Nieuweboer,M - Almarza Mato,C [E71]
ws H/329 ICCF, 28.08.2012


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In another game in the same group I played 10.Nge2 and narrowly escaped with a draw (that one began as a KID).
Or would you call a game like this "overly confrontational"?

  

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Reply #3 - 05/23/17 at 07:57:27
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I don't suppose there will be anything on 1.d4 d6 2.e4 Nf6 3.f3, à la Schandorff?
  
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Reply #2 - 05/23/17 at 02:25:28
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Great news! Looking forward to this, surely a labor of love.

@Eric, if you're reading this:

I hope you have something good against Black's attempts to play it in Benko Gambit style (6.Bg5 a6 7.Qd2 Nbd7 8.Nh3 c5 9.d5 b5 for instance).
  

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Reply #1 - 05/23/17 at 02:12:47
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I noticed that on Everyman's publishing schedule maybe a few weeks ago.  6. Bg5, no doubt ...
  
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05/23/17 at 01:49:33
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https://www.amazon.com/Opening-Repertoire-Saemisch-Kings-Indian/dp/1781944016/re...

Somehow this author sounds super familiar...like something in brain is flashing red...
  
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